[OT] Web formats/etc.

2 posts ยท Nov 2 2002 to Nov 3 2002

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:52:17 -0500

Subject: [OT] Web formats/etc.

Bri's pages are easy to read. Most of the problems in converting stuff to
stargrunt.ca's formats are this: We have a stated goal to keep the pages
short. This means for some of the chapters in Los' work, I have to paginate it
into a bunch of HTML pages. For cleanliness, we
hand code our HTML. And we use CSS/SSI or
something of that sort (tagging text using span tags and a class identifier)
to markup for formatting. And of course if we have to embed images, since we
focus on load speeds, we have to tune their size and color depths etc.

So converting an article is a bit of an effort (Adrian is faster at it than me
and probably better at it too). Maybe one day, if I'm feeling sharp, I'll
write some software to make conversions from normal formats automagical.

On the matter of light text, dark background -
we thought about that. Adrian has some thoughts at the time which I'm sure
he'll share with everyone (he is both an industrial designer and a web geek so
he has some background to speak to this). Me, I too like light text on dark
background, but I've seen some that I found hard to read. The real clincher
against this in my books is if you've ever had your printer go through half a
cartridge of ink trying to print white on black (rather than reversing the
stuff to print).

Part of how we plan to get around this on
stargrunt.ca is providing printer-friendly
versions of our web pages (pretty much just
the content white-on-black), but that is a
project in the offing yet.

BTW, we're working on our links section, so if you want us to link to your
page, go to stargrunt.ca (to our feedback form) and send us your URL. Provided
there's nothing scandalous, we'll probably throw up a link! (Note: We must
have some fairly broad
standards..... I've linked the NRE.... *grin* - Hi
John!)

My main goals in web design are this:
- Usability on all browsers (Adrian just fixed an
SSI thing and now Opera renders the site well, as does IE, NS (maybe not the
oldest one...),
and Mozilla - even Lynx works after a fashion)
- Download speed (I'm on 31kbps max - 26-28
kpbs more commonly so I sympathize)
- Readability (note, our black text is NOT
displayed on an actinic white - it is displayed on
an off white colour)
- Common look and feel across all sub-pages

Adrian and I want everyone to be able to visit the site, have it load quickly,
have it look passably attractive, and have the information be
available and indexed in a semi-useful fashion.
And we don't want to impose technical limitations (only works on IE forex) on
our viewers where at all possible to avoid. And annoying things like flashing
stuff, music, flash
animations, etc. are not used - yes they can do
some cool looking stuff, but we'd rather be slightly less cool and a lot more
accessible. We hope the content makes up for the lack of "gee whiz" modern
graphics stuff.:)

BTW, just a nod of thanks to all of our friends and contributors for the help
so far. The domain is registered through 2004 right now and with any luck the
site will continue to grow and mature.

And soon, if I'm "infinitely liesured", I might even have some extra time to
work on things.....

Tomb

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:14:37 +1100

Subject: Re: [OT] Web formats/etc.

From: "Thomas Barclay" <kaladorn@magma.ca>

> Bri's pages are easy to read. Most of the

> My main goals in web design are this:

See http://www.softimp.com.au/about.html for what
we did, and why.

We regretfully decided not to use CSS, because of
the browser incompatibility problems :-(

Our clients use, amongst others, Opera 6.01, 6.03, 6.05 on NT, Win 98
(different behaviousr on each) IE 5.0, 5.5, 6.0 with various service packs on
various Windows