[OT] Waterloo.

3 posts ยท Jun 19 1999 to Jun 21 1999

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:18:03 +1000

Subject: Re: [OT] Waterloo.

> ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote:

> I also usually play the Brits, but once had the distinct pleasure to

It came pretty close to that in the original too. Read "The Napoleonic Wars"
by Sgt Thomas Morris of the 2nd Batallion, 73rd (Highland)Regt. (Ed by John
Selby, Longmans Military Memoirs 1967).

I quote: "Hitherto, we had only acted against cavalry, but now Napoleon was
leading up his infantry, in masses: and as our brigade was literally cut
to pieces, the remnant was formed into line four-deep. But the French
infantry, that were now advancing, was so overwhelming in numbers, that we
were forced to retire; while doing so, General Halkett received a musket ball
through the cheek, and falling from his horse, was taken to the rear. The fire
from the French infantry was so tremendous that our brigade divided, and
sought shelter behind some banks... The only captain we now had left, invited
us from the shelter of the bank, to follow him in an attack on about three
thousand of the French infantry. About a dozen of us accepted the invitation;
and such was the destructive fire to which we were opposed, that we had not
advanced more than six or seven paces, before every one of the party, except
me and my brother, were either killed or wounded. We carried the captain back
to the shelter of the bank, where we found our first major [Dawson Kelly], who
had not been with us during the day, having been attached to the staff. He
ordered the captain to be taken to the rear, and caused us to be mustered. We
numbered two officers and seventy men; the batallion,
when we entered the field the first day, had twenty-nine officers and

From: ScottSaylo@a...

Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:38:37 EDT

Subject: Re: [OT] Waterloo.

In a message dated 6/18/99 8:46:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
> aebrain@dynamite.com.au writes:

<<
In retreat, 85% casualties, outnumbered 20:1, and pinned by enemy fire. Just
not broken, and willing (though unable) to attack... It's difficult finding
ANY wargames rules for any period that would allow for this while retaining a
modicum of verisimilitude.

> [quoted text omitted]

I agree, the Napoleonic Wars are full of similar stands against all odds: The
Guards at the gate to Hougomont, The Imperial Guard standing strong and saying
"Merde", Lawrence saying: "don't Give Up the Ship!" In modern times units
fight in squads and fire teams spread out to avoid being easily wiped out, the
shoulder to shoulder stand leaves us to stand and wonder at the

fortitude.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:41:29 -0700

Subject: RE: [OT] Waterloo.

"In retreat, 85% casualties, outnumbered 20:1, and pinned by enemy fire. Just
not broken, and willing (though unable) to attack... It's difficult finding
ANY wargames rules for any period that would allow for this while retaining a
modicum of verisimilitude."

        - In this case the Morale rules would cover the Inability to
attack effectively as being part of the Broken Status?