[OT] US Army NCO promotions, was Personal hoody-hoo

3 posts ยท Sep 11 2002 to Sep 16 2002

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:42:59 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] US Army NCO promotions, was Personal hoody-hoo

> --- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote:

OK, there's 3 parts to making SGT which is the most
junior NCO normally used by US Army.  Paygrade is E-5.
There's points, board, and PLDC. PLDC is a school which my 1SG (Indeed, First
Sergeant, company senior NCO) wants to get me into next month if possible.
Points is a centralized Army system where you recieve X amounts for job
performance, PT Test, weapon qualification, awards and decorations, military
education, and civillian education. I have 296, plus 146 from the board (which
take effect in 60 days). The Army sets the points required for promotion
higher and lower to control how many people are promoted based on how many
NCOs they need. For my MOS, the cutoff score is 415. So I'm 27 over the
minimum.

The promotion board consists of standing in front of
senior NCOs (except in my case--the BN Commander was
subbing for the CSM who was in Pennsylvania for a conference) while they throw
trivia questions at you (What day is the Army birthday? What types of gasses
does the promask not protect against? What are the 9
principles of battle-focused training?  How many days
extra duty may be assigned by a company commander? etc.) while they asess you
for military bearing,
confidence, and knowledge.  Nerve-wracking but I'm
done with it untill I'm ready to be promoted again.

Once a soldier has been the board he is said to be in "promotable status".
This means he is definitely
viewed as a sergeant-in-training, and to this end is
often pinned (it's not a real promotion since you don't make any more money)
corporal, which fits you in on the bottom of the NCO rungs allowing you to
pull duties which require an NCO to supervise, such as CQ. This gem of a duty
involves sitting up for 24 hours on the bottom floor of the barracks handling
emergencies. Hence the reference to the duty roster. A corporal is an ersatz
sergeant.

From: Flak Magnet <flakmagnet@t...>

Date: 16 Sep 2002 09:35:49 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] US Army NCO promotions, was Personal hoody-hoo

All of the responsibilities, none of the extra pay. Also, if a unit that has
corporals gets an influx of Sergeants, they can take the
"Corporal" away without so much as a thank-you because they no longer
need someone to "play" NCO.

Probably not much of a problem in MOS's that lack NCO's. But in MOS's that
have have low enlisted retention for lower enlisted but high retention for
NCO's... it's pretty common for Specialists to see corporal stripes repeatedly
while waiting for a PLDC slot. (PLDC = Primary Leadership Development Course:
After the "board" that Mr.Atkinson attended, it's the "next step" in
prerequisites before getting promoted to Sgt.)

--Flak

> On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 19:42, John Atkinson wrote:

> Once a soldier has been the board he is said to be in

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:44:10 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] US Army NCO promotions, was Personal hoody-hoo

--- Flak Magnet <flakmagnet@tabletop-battlezone.com>
wrote:

> slot. (PLDC =