[OT] The F Scale

22 posts ยท Sep 17 2002 to Sep 19 2002

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:14:33 +1000

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

On the subject of Liberals etc.

Just for fun, try:
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm

My score was 2.6, ie "Liberal Airhead".

Looking at http://www.liberal.org.au
"Keeping Australia Safe" - dammit, I might even
join the party just so they don't use such bloody stupid slogans.

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:21:39 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

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From: Germ <germ@g...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:28:38 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> On the subject of Liberals etc.

Hmm I'm a bit more stern at 3.7 "disciplined but tolerant" apparently

I guess that means I should get those 25mm buildings finished and stay calm
during their critical evaluation;)

Jeremey

From: Derk Groeneveld <derk@c...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:58:16 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:

> On the subject of Liberals etc.

I think I'm still in the elad with a 2? (Also a liberal airhead)

Cheers,

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:04:20 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

Alan and Carmel Brain schrieb:
> Just for fun, try:

I scored slightly lower ;-)

As usual with such tests, you can guess where the questions are leading and
cheat according to the result you want. I could easily have earned myself a
black shirt.

The whole site
http://www.anesi.com/chuck.htm
has a collection of fascinating stuff, including some of military relevance.

And "a Freudian-Marxist melange of pseudo-scientific speculative
foolishness that is now, thank God, thoroughly discredited. " for Adorno's
theories is very nicely phrased. They were very much in vogue
when I was at university :-)

Oh, another interesting bit:
http://www.sondereinheiten.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3204
The tale of a German-Turk who fought with the Turkish army against the
Kurds in 1995/96. Some tales of action, and what life in a CRUD army
can be like. Sorry, the text of that forum entry is in German.

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: Channing Faunce <channing@g...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:28:35 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

Please don't read if you are going to take this 'test' - I don't want to
color your responses.

I haven't had much to contribute to the list for a while, but I thought I'd
take this 'test'.

Endded with a score of 3.6... pretty much in the middle of the road. This was
actually a bit of a shock, since I thought I would come in with a
'lower' score - somewhat closer to 'liberal airhead' - as I've always
tried to subscribe to 'If it doesn't harm someone else it's no one else's
concern.' Did anyony score far from where they thought they would?

Crtitiques:

I've never liked assigning gradiated resposes to absolute questions (9, 10,
23). Since very few things are absolute, how can a person agree with it even
if only the most extreme cases invalidate it?

Conversly, how can a person disagree with questions using terms like 'some'
(19, 29).

"3 to 4.5      Within normal limits; an appropriate score for an
American." Aren't all scores appropriate for Americans?

From: Robert Minadeo <raminad@e...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:44:59 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> I haven't had much to contribute to the list for a while, but I

Ditto!

> Endded with a score of 3.6... pretty much in the middle of the road

4.2 here. No real surprise but as others noted this kind of test is easily
manipulated (subconsciously perhaps and therein lies its brilliance;)

Question 22: Not really sure I understood this one. Are they asking if wars
and social troubles will end before the sun burns out or some other
apocalyptic natural catastrophe occurs or are they asking if one believes a
Biblical Flood will re-occur as retribution if folks don't all learn to
get along? Is the question whether mankind will sort itself out before the
physical clock runs out or if a supernatural agent will rain doom and despair
as punishment for wickedness? Is just how the audience interprets this
question as much a part of the test as selecting a response? Are there any
more questions to be asked about this one? Should there be? Why
not? ;)

Bob

From: Germ <germ@g...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:48:59 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> "3 to 4.5 Within normal limits; an appropriate score for an

Well I don't think we are taking this seriously. I've given it as much thought
as the which muppet or star wars character are you tests! (and before anyone
asks Rowlf and Luke:)

Maybe some one can come up with a list of questions based on all those many
many (oh boy have there been many!) posts about the various GZG universe
factions. That way we can all tell if we have the right fleets.

I'm probably NSL!:)

Jeremey

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:08:44 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> At 3:04 PM +0200 9/17/02, KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

Arrest that MAN!!!!!! He admits he's a traitor and cheats the system!

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:30:12 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:44:59 -0400, "Robert Minadeo"
<raminad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Question 22: Not really sure I understood this one. Are they asking if

According to the list at the bottom, the question was one of the superstition
ones. It's looking to see if you believe in an end-of-the-world type of
retribution.

I got a 2.9: liberal airhead, though I'm really close to the "appropriate
score for an American". So, I guess this really does prove I'm Canadian!

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:32:51 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

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From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:48:56 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> At 4:32 PM +0100 9/17/02, Robin Paul wrote:

John A. is very much a Hamilton man if I don't miss my mark. I am more of a
Jeffersonian type myself.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:42:58 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> --- Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@tesco.net> wrote:

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:54:29 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> --- KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

I ran a 3.67, unsurprisingly. I think the strong agreement on the statement
that "some people are born with the urge to jump from high places" had
something to do with this. There were some questions that I wanted to answer
as "Yes, BUT". Like the fillial affection ones. I'll say yes you should honor
and
love your parents, with a great big _unless_ to cover
everything from abuse and neglect to simple bad parenting. Amusingly, I'm
still.2 more liberal than the 'average American' in 1950. One wonders how much
of that is due to the strong disagreement with the homosexual question.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> --- Ryan M Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:16:41 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

Well, I just clocked 2.36; I am a liberal airhead. I think I've been called
that by one or two list members, actually!

The age of the questionaire shows in a lot of the questions, doesn't it? (Like
the one that says below it, "You'll have to pretend it's 1946 when you answer
this one." That got a laugh.)

Several of the questions were "What *are* they talking about?" types -
#29, for ex...

Liberally,

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:23:37 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

> At 10:03 AM -0700 9/17/02, John Atkinson wrote:

Strong affinity for the Jingoistic practices. I'm assuming this based on what
I know of Hamilton's Federal leanings, and yours of course.

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:08:56 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:54:29 -0700 (PDT), John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I ran a 3.67, unsurprisingly. I think the strong

Maybe, though I gave it a 5 out of the 6 options (not sure what was below
"strongly agree") and came up with a 2.9. Now that I think about it, I'd
probably go back and give that a "strongly agree", which would probably throw
me into the 3.0 range.

> There were some questions that I

I agree with you. I answered pretty much the same way.

> Amusingly, I'm still .2 more liberal than

That's probably a big part of it right there.

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:21:40 -0700

Subject: RE: [OT] The F Scale

3.1333333333333333333...

usually I'm right in the middle on these tests

Michael Brown

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From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:21:43 -0600

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

My score is 3.0 "true American" LOL I guess that's slightly more conservative
than the average Canadian to be borderline American. Seems right for an
Albertan:)

Seriously though, tests like these are usually not very accurate. You could
just answer 6 for all of them to get a black shirt. A lot of the questions
are also loaded to give a strong left-right dichotomy.  For example,
question 2: well, I believe bad manners and habits will make it hard to get
along with regular people; that's just common sense. But what's "breeding"?
Having an elongated head?   Question 4 too:  I believe the businessman,
the manufacturer, and the professor together are far more important than the
artist, but the question puts them apart. Well, depends on the type of
professor:)

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From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:29:19 -0700

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

I'm even closer at 2.966666666666667

I think that proves that this test wasn't meant to measure me.

> Allan Goodall wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:44:59 -0400, "Robert Minadeo"
<raminad@earthlink.net>
> wrote:

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:31:42 -0700

Subject: Re: [OT] The F Scale

I gave that one a "somewhat agree". I was thinking "yeah, sure.. maybe 3

? and so what?"

> John Atkinson wrote:

> --- KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote: