[OT] Sunspots was: World maps

G'day,

> While solar activity has dropped in the last decade, temperatures have

Like I said still a debated topic. There was always something in addition to
sunspots (otherwise the mismatch before 1880 wouldn't be so large), there's
just so many factors to grapple with that you can't just point your finger at
any single one and say that's it. However, if (and yes this could be a big if)
real ecospheres work anything like our models then if we're to make the
transition into the new climate state as easy as possible on us puny humans we
should be looking for ways of moderating our influence, as nonlinear
amplification of effects could be critical.

Dragging my lecture at least slightly on topic, may be its the failure to
adopt eco-friendly technology that ultimately leads to the economic
crisis underlying the US collapse (I think Allan suggested that in the thread
on potential real triggers for such an event). In contrast some of the nations
currently most effected by poor climates may welcome eco-friendly
technology more readily and so that's how they get enough of a leg up to be
federated
superstates with even a marginal look-in within the timeframe set out by
Jon's loose timeline.

Just a thought.

Cheers