[OT] Summer Reading List

22 posts ยท Jun 21 2000 to Jun 26 2000

From: Aron_Clark@d...

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:52:59 -0700

Subject: [OT] Summer Reading List

Since traffic is a bit light thought I'd share this with you all. Recently we
had a thread "Suggested Sci-Fi",
I took all the related suggestions and complied them in this list. I've also
added to it as books are recomended.
Feel free to email me your additonal military sci-fi suggestions off
list, or on list if you wish.

Suggested Reading List

- "Culture" sieres by Iain Banks also Player of Games, and Use of
Weapons
- Lois Bujold, any
- Terry Pratchett, not necessarily sci fi (but what? )
- The rest of David Weber Harrington books
- Winning Colors, Once a Hero, Rules of Engagement, and others by
Elizabeth Moon
- Poul Anderson's Dominc Flandry books
- Robert Frezza's "A Small Colonial War", "Fire in a Faraway Place", and
"Cain's Land
- James P Hogan's "Voyage from Yesteryear"
- Starcruiser Shenandoah series by Roland Green
- These Green Foreign Hills by Roland Green
- Sten series by Alan Cole and Chris Bunch
- Sassinak and Generation Warriors by McCaffrey and Moon
- Rogue Powers and Torch of Honor by Roger Macbride Allen
- Profiteer, Partisan, and Revolutionary by Andrew Swann
- Texas Triumphant by Daniel da Cruz
- Niven and Pournelle's Footfall, Lucifer's Hammer and The Legacy of
Herot
- Semper Mars, Luna Marine and the latest, Europa Strike, by "Ian
Douglas" (actually William H. Keith)
- The First Casualty and Price of Peace by Mike Moscoe
- The Warrior's Apprentice or The Vor Game by Lois Bujold.

From: Mark Reindl <mreindl@p...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:09:35 -0700

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

I highly recommend the Starfist series by David Sherman and Dan Cragg (four
books out already and counting) and also the latest series by Rick
Shelley (Officer Cadet-Lieutenant Colonel, five books so far), as well
as anything else by him.

Mark

> Aron_Clark@digidesign.com wrote:
Recently we
> had a thread "Suggested Sci-Fi",
I've also
> added to it as books are recomended.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:29:23 +1000

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

G'day,

> - Poul Anderson's Dominc Flandry books

I've heard he's a bit patchy and not for everyone, but I'd also try his "Hoka!
Hoka! Hoka!". Its a compilation of short stories so may not hang together as
well as it could, but its one of the funniest things I've ever read!

Cheers

Beth

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:51:52 -0700

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> At 10:29 AM +1000 6/22/00, Beth Fulton wrote:

The Flandry stories are classic science fiction. His other stuff is
spotty <em>in comparison to these</em>

From: Samuel Reynolds <reynol@p...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:06:08 -0600

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> G'day,

> "Hoka! Hoka! Hoka!". Its a compilation of short stories so may not hang

> together as well as it could, but its one of the funniest things I've

And its predecessor, Earthman's Burden. (Hound of the Baskervilles, indeed!)

- Sam

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:20:50 -0700

Subject: Re:[OT] Summer Reading List

here we go again :-)

- The "Reality Dysfunction" series by Peter Hamilton
- "Passage at Arms" by Glen Cook (hard to find but worth the effort)
- The Uplift War series by David Brin
- The Vorkosigan Saga by Bujold (we're deadly serious)
- "Armor" by John Steakly (whatever has been said onlist, it's still
in print for a reason)
- "The Real Story" and the rest of the series by Donaldson (no,
seriously. Asides from the female lead going through sevn kinds of screaming
hell (2 or 3 being her own fault) it's terrific science fiction. Book 4 ends
with the most dramatic 150 pages of space combat I've ever read. The science
is a tad off at times, but is still above average).
- the Man-Kzin Wars series. Seven is my favorite, but its all pretty
good.

> At 4:52 PM -0700 6/21/00, Aron_Clark@digidesign.com wrote:
Recently we
> had a thread "Suggested Sci-Fi",
I've also
> added to it as books are recomended.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:25:00 +1000

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

G'day guys,

Guess this news of liquid water on Mars makes all our discussions of
colonising other worlds SLIGHTLY more sensible hey?

Just a thought for the day

OK I was excited and had to gossip with SOMEONE;)

Beth

From: jfoster@k... (Jim 'Jiji' Foster)

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:23:26 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> At 04:52 PM 6/21/00 -0700, you wrote:

If you like fantasy, her "Deed of Paksennarrion" trilogy is good stuff.

> - Sten series by Alan Cole and Chris Bunch

Rather lighweight space opera IIRC, but lots of fun.:)

> - Niven and Pournelle's Footfall, Lucifer's Hammer and The Legacy of

And lets not forget the classic Mote in God's Eye. Some good space
naval/first contact elements in that one.

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 05:01:54 GMT

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> Right now, I'm about to tackle Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon

You're in for a treat. It's up there with David Brin's "Earth", Walter
Miller's

From: Colin Plummer <colin@i...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:16:34 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

Thus spoke Aron_Clark@digidesign.com on Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 04:52:59PM
-0700 :
> Since traffic is a bit light thought I'd share this with you all.
Recently we
> had a thread "Suggested Sci-Fi",
I've also
> added to it as books are recomended.

I'm surprised no-one suggested it yet, or maybe everyone who's anyone
has read it already:)

'Ender's Game' by Orson Scott Card, the following books 'Speaker for the Dead'
and 'Xenocide' aren't quite so military in bias but also very good. I'm trying
to get round to reading the latest addition to that series, but haven't yet.
I'm going to have to finish reading 'Shogun' first;) which I'd certainly
recommend as an insight into Japanese culture and -some- historical
bits.

From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:29:27 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

On 22-Jun-00 at 11:22, colin.plummer@theplanet.net
(colin.plummer@theplanet.net) wrote: > Thus spoke
Aron_Clark@digidesign.com on
Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 04:52:59PM
> -0700 : >
I've
> > also added to it as books are recomended.
which
> I'd certainly recommend as an insight into Japanese culture and -some-

If you liked Ender's Game you might try the new one, "Ender's Shadow". I liked
it even better than the original. It also fills in many gaps that I didn't
realize were there.

From: Bryn Monnery <sue.monnery@v...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:07:29 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

Add:

Hyperion and the Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons (although I'd consider giving
the 2 "sequels" a wide berth) The War against the Chtorr series by David
Gerrold Anything by Peter F. Hamilton (Although the end of the Naked God was a
serious cop out, "how can I end this book?")

Gives me a warm glow :-)

I really ought to finish that FT- Reality Dysfunction variant one day...

From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:46:13 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> On 22-Jun-00 at 13:12, Bryn Monnery (sue.monnery@virgin.net) wrote:

I wish you hadn't told me that...

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> --- Bryn Monnery <sue.monnery@virgin.net> wrote:

It's not space combat, but what would the SG stats for a worm look like
?

> Anything by Peter F. Hamilton (Although the end of the Naked God was a

I liked the ending. It was a massive deus ex machina resolution, but it
wrapped up as well as any ending I can imagine.

> I really ought to finish that FT- Reality Dysfunction variant one

I hope to go through all five books and take notes on space combat sometime
soon.

Hmmm. 1 thrust = 2 G (keeps the faster ships inside the FT range)

combat wasps will be a bit tricky. Most of the action of space combat seems to
be swarms of wasps trying to get by each other so they can get at the ships.
The numbers Hamilton gives are consistent enough that something playable is
possible (unlike some books).

From: Robert Crawford <crawford@k...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:37:32 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

If you can find them, Joel Rosenberg's SF is pretty good. His Metzada series
is military SF, "Emile and the Dutchman" is about
survey-team duty, and "Ties of Blood and Silver" is more mainstream
SF.

All his SF is set in the same background, but at different times.

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:46:16 GMT

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> It's not space combat, but what would the SG stats for a worm look like

Use GURPS War Against the Ch'torr as a sourcebook. They're no tougher than,
say, a platoon of light Armour. The small ones, anyway.

Now an Enterprise Fish, that's a significant target. Even then, we're talking
Kilotonnes (OK, maybe a Megatonne, tops) of yield rather than a really big
warhead to disable it. Harder to kill of course.

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:33:05 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> Aron_Clark@digidesign.com wrote:
Recently we
> had a thread "Suggested Sci-Fi",
I've also
> added to it as books are recomended.

So far this summer I've finished L. Neil Smith's "Forge of the Elders"
and re-read both Heinlien's "Starship Troopers" and "The Moon is a Harsh
Mistress." Right now, I'm about to tackle Vernor Vinge's "A Fire Upon the
Deep" and Poul Anderson's "Harvet of Stars." If I've got time, I'll finally
start Drake's "The Tank Lords", finish the Honor Harrington
series, and take a short break from sci-fi with either "The
Fountainhead" or "Sharpe's Gold." In between all that, I want to brush
up on my History (I'm thinking of focusing in either Republican/Imerpial
Rome or the Napleonic Wars.), so I'll throw in some non-fiction as well.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:52:55 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> 'Ender's Game' by Orson Scott Card, the following books
which I'd certainly
> recommend as an insight into Japanese culture and -some-

Caveat--I've had Japanese friends tell me that the Japanese
culture in Shogun isn't all that realistic. Better than nothing, though.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:53:56 -0400

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> The War against the Chtorr series by David Gerrold

How did you cope with all the angst slopping around?

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:26:29 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

> Laserlight wrote:

This reminds me: A few years ago when Disney put out "A Bug's Life", McDonalds
came out with some promotional toys of some of the characters including a
motorized Hemmlich the Caterpillar. One of my gaming buddies, who is a whiz at
kit bashing, put one of the Hemmlich toys through some plastic surgery (no pun
intended). With miliput, some wire, and a fresh paint job he was able to
create an startling Chtorr worm based on the illustrations from Steve
Jackson's GURPS WAtC sourcebook!

Just recently, he took a toy turtle from a museum souvenir stand and
transformed it into "Blip" from the old Gammaruaders game. (Complete with
weapons, tracks, armor, and technicolor shell.)

I'll ask him if he has any pictures that I can post somewhere.

From: Corey Burger <burgundavia@c...>

Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:25:00 -0700

Subject: Re: [OT] Summer Reading List

Back on this sort of topic,

I enjoy anything but Drake, whether it be his Hammer series or his General
series with SM Stirling.

And I also enjoy SM Stirling's Nantucket back in time series

From: Bryn Monnery <sue.monnery@v...>

Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:21:10 +0100

Subject: [OT] Summer Reading List

> >The War against the Chtorr series by David Gerrold

I was a teenager at the time, and found all the angst strangely compelling
;-)