[OT] Re Underwater questions

5 posts ยท Nov 2 1999 to Nov 2 1999

From: CGS <michael@c...>

Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:24:25 +0000

Subject: [OT] Re Underwater questions

> I'm working on creating a background for a RPG set on a waterworld and

> comunites?
Food (no problem in the ocean unless the biochemistry is weird (and if it is
what idiot picked the planet to settle on). Air, no problem, can be recycled
pretty well, oxygen and H2 can be cracked from water using a bige nuke plant
to provide fuel for the smaller subs.
> 3) Is there a detailed design system for Submarine design?
Why not use Full Thrust, with the hull strength limiting the dive depth!
> 4) Would a submarine fighter (like from Sea Quest or Archemdian
I doubt it, torps are fast but the endurance problem is a killer and they are
much slower than fighter aircraft (50kts, admittedly for WW
II).
> 5) What is the best shape for a lander desgined to move though the air
Streamlined
> 6) What would be the best simulater for underwater combat be?
No idea, but combat would be slow (minutes not seconds) at anything but
knife-fighting ranges.
> 7) Would "cralwers" be usable?
Yes, not very fast and probably limited to shallower water if manned.
> 8) What does it take to do under water mining?
Robots? Pressure is again the problem, Surface mining is easier than actual
underground mining, They do mine under the seabed now but they are surface
mines that have galleries extending out under the sea and thus relativly
shallow. I think it would be possible in shallow water but in deeper water I
doubt it.
> 9) What would be the normal shapes that buildings be based on?
Domes, strong and simple,though as long as the pressure balances almost any
shape would do?
> 10) What type of weapons would work (lasers are out, but what about
Lasers would work, blue-green ones anyway. Range might be limited
though, depending on the clarity of the water, hmmn, estury mouth, lots
of suspended sediment, 1/4 range.
Almost anything would work but ranges would be way down, tens of metres
instead of hundreds for any projectile hand weapon. Torps. Im thinking of the
Russian rocket powered torps, cannot remember the speed but fast.

What were those David Drake (?) stories about a waterworld with really hostile
plant life on the islands?

Another nice book is T.J. Bass's 'The Godwhale'.

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 06:31:57 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Re Underwater questions

> CGS wrote:

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:10:54 EST

Subject: Re: [OT] Re Underwater questions

In a message dated 11/2/99 1:32:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> michael@carrickfergus.schoolzone.co.uk writes:

> >I'm working on creating a background for a RPG set on a waterworld

So power, Agri-domes, desalination, space, and air generation, along
with some place to build parts and get resouces.

> >3) Is there a detailed design system for Submarine design?

That's what I think I'm going to do (Deapth Factor seems to be a good idea a
the time) but if I can find a more detailed system, were things like
configuration would play a part.

> >4) Would a submarine fighter (like from Sea Quest or Archemdian

50 knots, that's amost twise the speed of a submarine, I think the big hurtle
would be the power plant.

> >5) What is the best shape for a lander desgined to move though the

Hehe, I was going to use a brick:)

> >6) What would be the best simulater for underwater combat be?

Okay.

> >7) Would "cralwers" be usable?

most of the water would be around 200 meters, with the deepest part about 500
meters.

> >8) What does it take to do under water mining?

Okay.

> >9) What would be the normal shapes that buildings be based on?

I think that domes and spheres would be predomodant.

> >10) What type of weapons would work (lasers are out, but what about

I think you're talking about a 200 knoter, it was rocket propelled and carried
a nuke warhead.

> What were those David Drake (?) stories about a waterworld with

Thanks, I'll check into them.
-Stephen

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:30:20 EST

Subject: Re: [OT] Re Underwater questions

In a message dated 11/2/99 3:35:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 14:20:22 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Re Underwater questions

> CGS wrote:

Was it "Surface Action" by David Drake?