From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:31:34 PDT
Subject: [OT rambling in some ways] Free Hawaii thoughts Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:52:35 -0500 Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
writes: <snip>
> By the way, I can't wear the shirt to work; our
Interesting tidbit. The nearest thing I have to a godfather is Mr.Lagon
(served with both paternal and maternal uncles in Korea with USMC -
Chosin Reservoir and MacArthur we * not * talk about) who is '...native
hawaiian and Philippino..." and I have concluded that from my visit there for
several weeks and comments from those living there that:
1) There are certain groups considered 'native' to the Islands a) Hawaiians
(100% native Hawaiians must exist but no one seems to actually know one.) b)
In descending order the social pecking order seemed to be 1) Ethnic Chinese 2)
Ethnic Japanese 3) Ethnic Philippinos 4) Ethnic Portuguese
5) long term 'Howlees' (caucasians) - families been
there since before Hawaii was a state. Preferably Way Before. A very flexible
status and very individually applied IMO. 6) Most anyone Asian or Caucasian
who lives for job purposes (i.e., "...the company moved them here...") Yes,
this varies by what they do. Mainlanders are still Mainlanders... and 'locals'
should get all the jobs... I knew a NIMA (federal Agency) person who requested
a hardship PCS back to the states because his kids were attacked every day
after school after two years there.
7) Tourists - and there is a hierarchy there too from my
observations. Another time perhaps.
8) African-Americans (Serious- problems with
Asian-Americans, just like in Los Angeles...)
8) Samoans - Hoo boy, the stories about 'Samoan
insularity' I heard... I don't think I heard one story where the Samoans were
not the 'bad guys' in the Islands. 9) Mainlanders who moved there and 'take
jobs away from the islanders' (I have a story about a classmate who tried that
(we are from Los Angeles) but that I will tell
anyone interested Off-list.
[emphasis, not volume]
OKAY, TO BRING THIS ON TOPIC.
How about Free Hawaii being in the same role as Switzerland or Spain in World
War 2? As long as you don't involve the locals, make life complicated for the
authorities (lots of bodies, burning buildings or clear violation of
diplomatic credentials) or get obvious (the worst sin) you pretty much can do
what you want diplomatically and 'intelligence gathering' wise. And even if
you do break "the rules" (frogmen hidden in a ship in harbor?) if done
properly you might get away with it.
This can make for some possible below-SG2 scenarios [FMAS ** is **
coming sometime I hope - please tell me it is!] on the Islands with
Local Authorities, dissident groups (dozens of them perhaps,) refugee groups
(overlaps with dissidents,) NAC operatives, Mercs, Japanese organizations
(Corporate, Yakuza... oops being repetitive..., Government... redundant to
Corporate again,) SAI types, ESU operatives, maybe RH (to watch the ESU,)
possibly NSL or FSE (refer to RH presence reasons,) and... well, you get the
drift. Add a space port to the mix and it is definitely "Cowboys and Indians
in the Islands.'
There might even be situations where local troops actually clash with other
nations especially those who are 'deniable' or early on in Free
Hawaii's history. There would be definite possibilities for on/in/over
water conflict. Actual "naval" scenarios! Even "aquatic" DS2 maybe.
Gracias,