(OT) Probability vs Heuristic Game Design was (Rules "inspiration" (was [OT] Bring and Battle...

2 posts ยท Oct 1 1998 to Oct 1 1998

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:16:55 +0100

Subject: (OT) Probability vs Heuristic Game Design was (Rules "inspiration" (was [OT] Bring and Battle...

> Yes the difference is the motivation for the analysis.

It was to **agree** with your point that probability analysis is
worthwhile to _find flaws in the game system_, but someone (not me!)
might incorrectly, consider you a minimaxer for doing it. As you have a
special personal page for people to post hate mail about you to, I
assumed someone in the past must have thought you were/are perhaps?

It wasn't a scare tactic, why should I want to *scare* anyone? You credit me
with motivations I couldn't possibly have.

<wrong end of stick>
> Gee whiz, I'm shaking in my boots. Please don't excommunicate me, I'll
</wrong end of stick>

> Actually, I think heuristics is probably a better way to begin

Glad we agree.

From: Mikko Kurki-Suonio <maxxon@s...>

Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:30:30 +0300 (EEST)

Subject: Re: (OT) Probability vs Heuristic Game Design was (Rules "inspiration" (was [OT] Bring and Battle...

> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Tim Jones wrote:

> It wasn't a scare tactic,

No offense taken.

> why should I want to *scare* anyone?

Why should anyone want to send me anonymous email claiming I've ripped off an
author I've never heard of in my life? Why should anyone want to publish a
rather unflattering picture claiming it's me at GenCon when I've never set
foot in the state of Wisconsin (or where ever it is held)?

I can't fathom these guys. Can you?

Btw: I used to think you needed some sort of standards and intellect to get
into Harvard. Not anymore...

> but someone (not me!)

Just curious: Why did you think it would be worthwhile to let me know that?
Did you think I didn't already know?

(I have a longer rant about "minmaxing" in general I might post in a few days)

> As you have

Rules lawyer, minmaxer and munchkin are among the nicer terms I've been
called.