OT: Oceanography stuff

6 posts · Apr 29 2001 to May 1 2001

From: David Rodemaker <dar@h...>

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:20:51 -0500

Subject: OT: Oceanography stuff

> on the weather. Not to mention the magnetic poles (which geologically

Returning CO2...

I don't suppose that there is anything that you could suggest reading on this
topic that a layman (my fiancée cracked up with me using this term, her
mind's in the gutter <g>) could understand?

> Does beg the question of whether the Island nations joined the OU

Probably, but perhaps it was also the Cachalot (Alan Dean Foster) situation???

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:55:44 +1000

Subject: Re: OT: Oceanography stuff

G'day David,

> Returning CO2...

To do a quick wrap up...

1. Water (laden with CO2 and other solubles) sinks in North Atlantic (cold and
dense thus sinks) 2. Deep ocean currents carry water down the Atlantic 3.
Currents turn corner (are deflected deflected by the circumpolar currents,
topography etc down there) and eventually end up heading north

along the bottom of the Pacific 5. As the waters have warmed a bit and because
of land forms and other ocean current systems the water and gases from North
Atlantic hundreds of years before hand rises in the equatorial Pacific. 6. All
those gases that have been safely locked away are back in the atmosphere...so
if man has caused substantial warming imagine how its going to go up once all
those gases are released rather than just the% that stayed around and didn't
get "buried" originally.

On top of that changes in global atmospheric conditions also change current
systems (with major consequences for "burial" of stuff and ocean productivity
etc etc) so, for instance, you could see the deflection of the Gulf Stream and
as a result England ends up as frigid as the rest of the

Northern Hemisphere of the same latitudes in winter. As well as a lot of

other MAJOR changes, makes for some interesting thought games about what

the future environment really will look like;)

> I don't suppose that there is anything

Off the top of my head no unfortunately, but doing a search on deep ocean
currents or Atlantic bottom water circulation might help.

> (my fiancée cracked up with me using this term, her

Well there's nothing too wrong with that;)

> Probably, but perhaps it was also

OK caught me out again, haven't read that either (sorry not much of a fiction
reader until fairly recently).

Cheers

Beth

From: David Rodemaker <dar@h...>

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:19:12 -0500

Subject: RE: OT: Oceanography stuff

> >Returning CO2...
<<<SNIP>>>>

Thank you!

> >(my fiancée cracked up with me using this term, her

Of course not, now if we just figure out how to fit the house there...

> >Probably, but perhaps it was also

Part of the Commonwealth series.

> From the back cover: "Seaworld. A guilt-ridden Earth had turned

Not so much in that (though it's certainly an interesting idea), but the
thought of Micro-Indo-Polynesian's seeking worlds that fit thier culture
*and* that most other people don't want.

The book is a great read BTW.

From: Craig <craig@c...>

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:26:31 +0100

Subject: RE: OT: Oceanography stuff

On Monday, April 30, 2001 6:19 PM, David Rodemaker
[SMTP:dar@horusinc.com]
wrote:
> > >Returning CO2...

Do you think we can use the neurophon against the Savasku now, come to think
of it JMS used this idea in B5 as well.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:37:40 +1000

Subject: RE: OT: Oceanography stuff

G'day David,

> From the back cover: "Seaworld. A

Thanks.... though the thought of successful transport and setting up a
suitable supporting ecology seems like a truly Herculean task!!

> Not so much in that (though it's

The question being that if they had the opportunity of a world of their own
would they necessarily want one that's mostly water with little if an arable
land? I don't know just wondering.

Beyond that I personally think most planets will have a mix of climate zones
and that peoples from a nation with one kind of climate on Earth may not
necessarily immediately head for that climate on planet X... then again maybe
they will (??). It is a nice idea, just not sure if I agree with
it ;)

> The book is a great read BTW.

Cool, another one to add to the growing list!

Thanks

From: David Rodemaker <dar@h...>

Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:20:34 -0500

Subject: RE: OT: Oceanography stuff

> >From the back cover: "Seaworld. A

It *is* science-fiction after all... <g>

> >Not so much in that (though it's

The small human population of the planet make thier living via sea harvesting
IIRC and live on big floating cities. I also think that the planet was
supposed to be a bit of an anomoly by being all water...

> >The book is a great read BTW.

Most (if not all come to think of it) of the Foster Commonweatlth Series and
Flinx series (set in the Commonwealth) are well worth the time. He's been
writing them for about 20 years now and they are light, easy reads.
*Not*
anything at all like military sci-fi at all...

> Thanks

Your welcome.