Hello!
I'm just writing a short e-mail to tap into the vast wargaming
experience and knowledge of the list. This year, I have moved to a boarding
school and consequently find myself with much more free time at school, so I'm
planning to set up a wargaming club. What I need is some terrain since I don't
have any of my own, and seeing as I'm taking my GCSEs this year I don't have
the time to make it myself. I asked JT for advice and he recommended TSS or
Gallia for the basic terrain boards, and indeed I expect I will be sending an
order to TSS soon. However,
what I would like to know is where I can find ready-to-use 'jungle'
style trees at 25/28mm scale. What I need is trees that come pre-painted
and ready basically, because I really don't have much time. Thanks!!
Check out Major General Tremorden's Colonial Gaming page at:
http://zeitcom.com/majgen/22palmsc.html
<http://zeitcom.com/majgen/22palmsc.html>
for his section on Palm trees. Although most of the section is devoted to
making your own, it provides a source for some pre-made ones (all you
need is a quick dry brush coat of brown on the trunk and maybe some green on
the leaves) to have some quickly available trees. Some of the sources listed
include toys and wedding cake suppliers. I have had good luck with a local
weeding cake supplier, purchasing 3, twin trunk palm trees for 65 cents a
pack, so 30 double trees would be about $6.50. They are a bit short for for
25 mm (only 3 1/2" tall) but they are cheap. You will need to supply
bases (cardboard or putty) since they are intended to be stuck in cakes.
--Binhan
[quoted original message omitted]
Dunno if you have any toy liquidators handy, but the sets with dino's often
have a surprising number and quality of folliage, at times better than the
reptiles.
Quick wash(cleaning) and a wash(dilute paint) and they can look darn fine, or
at least those done by friends.
G'day,
> Dunno if you have any toy liquidators handy, but the sets
Same goes for trees in "wild animal" packs (the ones with lions, tigers,
giraffes etc). You may also like to check out the local pet store, some of the
aquarium "decorations" and fake weed can work well for trees, though you may
to reinforce some of the "trunks" with a bit of wire.
Cheers
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
Or cake decorating accessories. Mike Sarno has done very well with them for
his Vietnam era games.
I found this source:
http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/novelties/novelties.htm
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> Same goes for trees in "wild animal" packs (the ones with lions,
Or cake decorating accessories. Mike Sarno has done very well with them for
his Vietnam era games.
***
Beth caught me in one of my occasions of 'I was thinking of several, but only
mentioned...', as there are even some cheapo green army men sets with brush,
though the wild animal, extinct or not, sets can have some VERY nice pieces.
As for cake decorations, it helps if you work for a bakery, or a store with
in-house baking, as a friend does. Sometimes, dumping inventory makes
for most kewl targets of opportunity.
One of things about aquaria fauna is that it's often long strings of leaf
clusters or disks that can be cut apart so each is an individual plant. Also,
many are colored such that they can look really alien, but still as
man-sized plants. Not all; some end up looking just silly. YMMV, as it's
your judgement call.
Damn, all this must be SOMEWHERE on the web, right?
The_Beast
> . What I need is trees that come pre-painted and ready basically,
Railroad modelling stores usually have packs of trees at reasonable
prices -
mostly European / North American types though, but leafy trees look the
same everywere. They also sell lichen moss that makes good brush
Games Workshop does (did?) a set of "palm" trees - didn't look that much
like palms, actually, but usable anyway.
Aquarium/Terrarium supplies have been mentioned. Crafts shops sometimes
have "vegetation" that can be used.
I you want to be really fancy, use Bonsai trees ;-)
I have ordered trees/cacti from the Sugercraft peaple. Just 1 of each
set.
They are interesting, but as others have mentioned, they need bases.
Another source of palm trees is the "weapons and warriors" Pirate set. Each
set contains somthing like 9 double palm trees. These also need heavyer bases.
Donald Hosford
> "K.H.Ranitzsch" wrote:
> >. What I need is trees that come pre-painted and ready basically,
> Karl Heinz wrote:
There's pair of sprue of them in my Tau Battle Force. They're a bit odd
looking, and are two sprues, one is green (the leaves/fronds) and the
other
is brown (the trunk/roots).
> Hello!
I do like the GW jungle trees. You can make a good number from each sprue, and
they look
very nice when they are assembled -- a coat of thinned down green ink
over the bare plastic makes them look even better. I've just learned that you
have to put them on bigger bases, or glue several of them to one big base.
Otherwise, trees of any significant height become very unstable.
> At 08:27 1/11/01 +0100, Karl Heinz wrote:
> I you want to be really fancy, use Bonsai trees ;-)
There's a guy selling Bonsai trees down at the shopping centre, the first time
we saw them both Beth and I immediately had the same thought..... That would
look great on the wargaming table [maybe one day;)]
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There's a guy selling Bonsai trees down at the shopping centre, the first time
we saw them both Beth and I immediately had the same thought..... That would
look great on the wargaming table [maybe one day;)]
***
I have to have the experience with my good friends; Karen never understands
what's sooooo interesting about a piece of plastic trash on the ground.
I've also seen Bonsai guys selling, though I'm skeptical on the health of
trees out of the back of a cube van. I HAVE gotten that 'imagine the table...'
looking at some ground moss just outside the house. The thought of terrarium
sealed cover for the table between playings, though...
However, as I've stated before, for SGII and DSII, alien is good, so some
overripe oranges that have started hosting penicillin and the like might be
even better. Lovely powdery greens, blues, and browns, you know. ;->=
Wish I'd have thought of that back during my college bachelor days: Oh, the
kitchen? That's just setting up for the weekend campaign.
Have I lost my list curmudgeon status yet?
The_Beast
> devans@uneb.edu wrote:
Didn't we tell you it's a life appointment? There's only one way you'll
get out of that one ... ;-)
devans@uneb.edu schrieb:
> However, as I've stated before, for SGII and DSII, alien
Penicillin? Interesting ideas for Biowarfare scenarios could be developed.
> Wish I'd have thought of that back during my college
A cup of tea left standing for several days also develops a nice mat
:-(
Greetings Karl Heinz
Derek Fulton schrieb:
> At 08:27 1/11/01 +0100, Karl Heinz wrote:
Great minds think alike - even half a world away
:-)
Karl Heinz
In a message dated 11/1/01 6:18:55 AM Central Standard Time,
> johncrim@voicenet.com writes:
> do like the GW jungle trees. You can make a good number from each
Check out a "Cake Decorating" Store - you know - birthday and holiday
cakes, that kind of stuff. They usually sell Palm Trees VERY CHEAPLY.
> Check out a "Cake Decorating" Store - you know - birthday and holiday
This is true -- I have a bad of palm trees hidden somewhere.
Unfortunately, the look like palm trees...and a forest composed of nothing but
palms looks rather odd. The GW jungle trees look nice and exotic, and a forest
full of them looks quite good, especially if you use some lichen as well.
I'm still looking for some appropraite aquarium plants to chop up, though!
> In message <73.15588e94.2912e0f6@aol.com>, Popeyesays@aol.com writes:
In particular, Sugarcraft makes rediculously cheap plastic palm trees that
look great on the mini table.
In a message dated 11/1/01 11:56:10 AM Central Standard Time,
> johncrim@voicenet.com writes:
> I'm still looking for some appropraite aquarium plants to chop up,
If you are in the U.S. check out the Wal-Mart super store nearest you -
lots
of artificial aquarium plants - also go to a craft supply place that
sells
plastic and silk flowers and greenery - there is a wealth of stuff
there. I am think of taking a bunch of various size drink parasols and turning
them into wierd trees, but I have not gotten around to it yet. You can do some
nice things with stretch toilet paper on a frame work and coating it with
liquid latex too. Makes nifty dragon wings, if you wish to take the time...
translucent and everything.
For undergrowth/brush, I'd been using lichen but wasn't very happy
with it, didn't look right. So I picked up a scouring pad--a square of
green plastic fibers--tore it apart and made sure the edges were
irregular. Looks more realistic than the lichen & doesn't get scattered about.
> In a message dated 11/1/01 11:56:10 AM Central Standard Time,
Most of the places that I've been don't have a great selection --
largely, they have these things that look like long strands of kelp or
something. Chopped up they wouldn't look
any good, and as-is they're just too big. I'll have to check out
Wal-Mart, though.
My wife has made some neat plants out of sculpey, and I have to convince her
to make some more giant mushrooms for me.
> johncrim@voicenet.com wrote:
I've found some very useful stuff which is sold as 'Grass Mat' in the aquarium
section of a chain of pet shops. Not quite sure why it's called that because
it looks nothing like grass (unless it's some kind of
seagrass - not being a marine biologist I have no idea). Anyway, what
you get for the grand sum of £4.99 (c.US$7.50) is 25 plants, around 4" high,
arranged on a plastic grid roughly 6"x6". The plastic is very soft so the grid
can easily be cut up to separate the plants. I glue each one
onto a 2p coin (c.1" diameter - cheaper than an equivalent size washer
!), texture the base and voila ! - instant jungle trees. I use them for
15mm, however they'd make perfectly respectable 25mm foliage as well. The
plastic used is sometimes a rather virulent colour, but the long thin stems
flex so easily and don't look like they'll take a coat of paint very well.
I can't remember the manufacturer, but I know they're Chinese in origin so
presumably they'll be available outside the UK. If I get a chance over the
weekend I'll have a look at the packaging to identify them, and (possibly)
takes some pictures.
Thanks very much for all the help. It has been very useful!