G'day guys,
There was a piece on BBC news about 37 Gem being one of the most likely (so
far) looking sites for life other than here. In the article it says its 42
light years, so I went looking on the GZGverse map to see who I should dump
the scenario on. I didn't spot it easily (could be blind though) so looked it
up on google and got the following stats
HD CATALOG: 50692 SPECTRAL TYPE: G0V DISTANCE (L.Y.): 62 OTHER CATALOG: GL 252
OTHER NAME: 37 Gem
I'm at work so no star books with me, have I got the right beastie? At 62
light years its not going to be on Nyrath the grand's map, but doesn't anyone
know map edge it'll be off?
Thanks
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
> HD CATALOG: 50692 SPECTRAL TYPE: G0V DISTANCE (L.Y.): 62 OTHER
SOme more digging via Google:
http://www.nada.kth.se/~asa/Game/Countdown/stardat
> Jerry Acord wrote:
Actually 37 Gem is in the constellation of Gemini (hence the "Gem"
portion of the name ;-). For another, more easily read, detailed
listing of 37 Gem particulars go to:
http://www.tcaep.co.uk/astro/constell/6550079.htm
The coordinates on the page are listed in Right Ascension (RA) and Declination
(Dec), which is more commonly used by observers in the astronomical community.
You can convert from RA to degrees relatively easily enough (each 'hour' is
equivalent to 15 degrees).
Mk
G'day,
> Actually 37 Gem is in the constellation of Gemini...
I was trying to find it on Nyrath's map not the night sky, but thanks for the
info anyway guys!!;)
I did some late night 3dstarmapping and assuming I didn't goof anything
I *think* the system in question is "behind" the ESU/NAC (actually a
little up and behind) if you're looking "into" nyrath's map so to speak. Much
potential for more misunderstandings between these two powers now... "why did
you just blow up that fleet?... because it blew up ours... no it didn't!";)
Cheers
> G'day,
Oh, sorry, duh. Where's Nyrath's map at again? I'm sure
we can find it for you. :-)
> I did some late night 3dstarmapping and assuming I didn't
The bloody ESU were always conniving schemers that way. They're always going
around blowing up NAC fleets then claiming they didn't (or hiring IF to do it
for them,
that way they can claim they had no direct involvement ;-)
Mk
G'day,
> Oh, sorry, duh. Where's Nyrath's map at again? I'm sure
If you've time to double check my bumbling Nyrath's map is up at
http://www.projectrho.com/ft/ftmapmain.html
I think 37 Gem is actually too far away to appear on the map and so the whole
"behind the ESU" thing.
Thanks
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
Well, consider that the map is a 3D representation collapsed into a 2D area,
it may not be "behind" anything.
But on the 2D map, it seems more or less off in the direction of the Royal
Dutch Commonwealth, almost on a line between them and the FCT:
http://www.projectrho.com/ft/astropoliticalx.gif
Mk
G'day,
> But on the 2D map, it seems more or less off in the direction of the
Well I really goofed where I thought it was then! Must have been using the
wrong coordinate system in 3d starmapper when getting the lightyear
coordinates before converting to parsecs or something.
Is it actually on the map or just in that general area but to far away in 3D
space to make it on the 2D map?
Also thanks for the info on the conference papers.
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
I don't think it's on the map, but I didn't look that closely. I figured since
it was further out than what Nyrath's map was
to be showing, it wouldn't be there, even if the +/-z direction
might have 'forced' it fall on the map.
> Also thanks for the info on the conference papers.
Still working on these. Here are a few I've found on the net:
http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/workshops/1996/palebluedot/abstracts/ka
sting_01.html
(it's an older paper, though, may be somewhat outdated now)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/sci/fifthconf99/6197.pdf
http://www.astrobiology.com/asc2002/
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0305/0305500.pdf
This link brings you to the proceedings from the extrasolar planets conference
I attended last summer:
http://www.astrosociety.org/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/
p-CS294.html?E+scstore
(of course they want you to buy it ;-)
A powerpoint presentation on characterization of extrasolar terrestrial
planets:
http://dti.stsci.edu/projects/streaming/conferences/May_symposium_2002/p
pt/vikki_meadows_VPL_STScI.ppt
Here are a few links people might find interesting for formation of habitable
planets:
http://www.solstation.com/habitable.htm
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_circumstellar_010320.html
http://exobio.ucsd.edu/Space_Sciences/zones.htm
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/extrasolar-02a.html
A *very* cool and basic educational flash animation about habitable zones in
our own solar system:
http://library.thinkquest.org/C003763/flash/habzone1.htm?tqskip1=1&tqtim
e=1017
Okay, I think I've either overloaded or bored you guys enough now. ;-)
Mk
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
Sorry I'm late.
37 Geminorum on the grand FT map would be at
-16.6, -3.1, 3.6
It is closest to ADS 5054 which is currently unclaimed,
G'day,
> Sorry I'm late.
Wow the cav arrived!!!;)
> 37 Geminorum on the grand FT map would be at -16.6, -3.1, 3.6
Mmmm scenario generation time... and me with all these newly painted figs;)
> For future reference, go to
Great thanks!!!