OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

19 posts ยท Jul 6 2000 to Jul 16 2000

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:20:51 +0100

Subject: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage - an Indian Army BMP-2
on Republic Day. Very, very horrible.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0293.jpg

From: Fabet@a...

Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:31:11 EDT

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

In a message dated 7/5/00 9:18:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Robin.Paul@tesco.net writes:

<< Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage - an Indian Army
BMP-2 on
Republic Day. Very, very horrible.
 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images/0293.jpg

Rob Paul >>

It's close, but I'd have to rate it number 2. In the early/mid 70's the
U.S.
Army started experimenting with IR defeating paint. Go to your nearest game
shop and buy a bottle of the florescent yellow and florescent green, paint in
a woodland pattern and you've got a pretty good approximation. I'm not
jokeing. I saw this in the field at Fort Riley, Kansas. I only wish I had a
photo to back me up.

Faron

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:26:44 -0700

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> At 10:31 PM -0400 7/5/00, Fabet@aol.com wrote:

I'm not painting *either*. The one for sheer effort and the other for simple
taste. Although the Indian design looks disturbingly similar to some ork
patterns I recall from my GW days.

From: Tony Christney <tchristney@t...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:22:52 -0700

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

LOL!

> Robin Paul wrote:

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: 06 Jul 2000 08:15 GMT

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> Robin Paul wrote:

Cool! So I can paint my tanks any colour I like (and claim historical
precedent)!

Just wondering in what kind of environment that 'camouflage' is supposed to be
effective.

Another BMP on that site has a similar 'Tetris game' camouflage in more sober
colours. Certainly peculiar.

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 06:53:29 -0400

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

Well, you do know, don't you, that camoflage is more to break up a fighting
unit's outline than it is to

From: Mike Looney - ionet <mlooney@i...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:28:06 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Robin Paul wrote:

> Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage - an Indian Army BMP-2

That's weird all right...

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: 06 Jul 2000 12:06 GMT

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

Well, yes, though I'm not that sure about the 'more... than...' Even so, it's
hard to believe that this scheme is effective as camouflage.

1) Even if the primary purpose is breaking up the outline, the colours should
not contrast too markedly with the environment. Bright yellow is sure to draw
the eyes 2) The lines on the hull are parallel to the vehicle's edges, which
is not a good way to break up the outline
3) The multi-colored wheels should draw the eye when the vehicle is
moving (they often will be covered by grass or dust, though)

It might be designed to fool some kind of fire-control equipment, but
to me it looks more like a Lego advertisement.

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: Andrew Apter <andya@s...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:57:43 -0400

Subject: RE: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> Robin Paul wrote:

> Cool! So I can paint my tanks any colour I like (and claim historical

Comdex???

> Another BMP on that site has a similar 'Tetris game' camouflage in more

> sober colours. Certainly peculiar.

From: Michael Sarno <msarno@p...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:07:41 -0400

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> Robin Paul wrote:

> Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage - an Indian Army BMP-2

Actually, I think this is the most useful photo I've seen. I'm going to print
out a copy and bring it with me when I go to conventions. When someone berates
my camo schemes, I will simply produce said photo. 'Nuf said.

-Mike

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:10:11 -0500

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

***
I'm not painting *either*. The one for sheer effort and the other for simple
taste. Although the Indian design looks disturbingly similar to some ork
patterns I recall from my GW days.
***

For some reason, I thought of the Brit prisoner uniforms I've seen in old
movies, though I think those had(have?) little arrows instead of T's.

I still give the edge to Indian design; dayglo offends sensibilities, but the
mixture of yellows and pinks on dark brown... *shudder*

Have to admit, though, I'd really like to see a true dayglo cammo under
overcast. Would have to look like it's internally lit. ;->=

The_Beast

-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon

One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler

From: Christopher Congdon <codo-1@m...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:45:37 -0500

Subject: RE: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

OMG! What the HECK is that supposed to be hiding in?? An Easter Egg
field?????

Wow, is anyone gonna paint minis with that cammo pattern? =)

Chris

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From: Gregory Wong <sax@s...>

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:15:19 -0700

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> In a message dated 7/5/00 9:18:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

I bet that BMP is tough to pick out in a Mardi Gras parade.:)
--Greg

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:26:14 -0400

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> "Bell, Brian K" wrote:

I remember something like that happened in WWI.

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:56:43 +1000

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

G'day guys,

Given it was done for a parade maybe they just thought it looked
nice....
heck that'd be why I'd do it (especially if you look at their regimental

regalia - camel guys especially).

Either that or it was representative of all the camo scheme used (between all
those stripes and Ts all the colours of all their camo schemes for
different terrains are included -and yellow would/does work in some of
their northern deserts as far as I can find out).

Then again maybe they just ran out of enough paint to cover a whole tank
;P

Either way makes sense to me.... maybe they had a woman in charge of colour
that parade;)

Cheers

Beth

From: Corey Burger <burgundavia@c...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:09:05 -0700

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

Maybe the Indians see in Infared or Ultraviolet and this just blends in as
they see the world

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:57:42 -0400

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

ROTFL!

It certainly breaks up the pattern of the BMP, if nothing else. Ugh.

Speaking of odd camouflage patterns -- I remember reading that in
the 1980's, a USAF Aggressor squadron attempted to paint one of their
F-5s in a sand colour, but messed up their paint mixes and it ended up
looking like a banana. Can anybody verify this, or is this another one of
those military urban legends?

JGH

> Robin Paul wrote:

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: 07 Jul 2000 07:08 GMT

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

Jerry Han wrote
> ROTFL!
Ugh.
> Speaking of odd camouflage patterns -- I remember reading that in

Don't know about that particular case, but in recent years it has become quite
a fashion for air force squadrons to paint some of their planes in imaginative
schemes for special occasions (holidays, jubilees, first or last flights of a
type etc.) NATO's 'Tiger Meets' have become something of an artist's contest.

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: JohnDHamill@a...

Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 02:35:46 EDT

Subject: Re: OT\DS2- Is this the world's most hideous AFV camouflage (Indian BMP-2)

> << > Robin Paul wrote:

SHHHHH!!!! Don't let it out, but that's the official camo pattern for the
elite Indian "Clown" Regiment...

John