Here's a reference to a credible book by a credible historian. If you
want an excerpt, send me an e-mail off list.
A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas 1492 to
Present by Ward Churchill. City Lights Books, San Fransisco, CA, 1997.
Ward Churchill is a Professor of American Indian Studies with the Department
of Ethnic Studies at the
University of Colorado/Boulder.
WELL, WELL.
STILL trying to stir nasty.
does this volume discuss the enlightened British Governent policy of paying
bounties for Indian scalps in the colonies? allegedly for "combatant" scalps,
but pretty soon for any scalps? hmmmmm?
or is it a work of fantasy like that produced by the black professor at
University of Virginia that teaches all of the Pharoahs were black, HANNIBAL
was black, CLEOPATRA was black, JULIUS CAESAR was black, JESUS
was black, among others, and the the negro facial features of the
SPHINX so offended the white racist Napoleon that he directed his artillery to
mutilate it?????????????
if it is in a similiar vein, blow it out of your barracks bag, buster.
why do you not let anti-American love -hate thing you have with J OHN
drop off list and let the rest of us concentrate on interstllar combat
GAMES instead of "intellectual" my pee-pee is bigger than your pee-pee?
> WELL, WELL.
Shure, why not.
> does this volume discuss the enlightened British Governent policy of
from page 181
The earliest confirmed English bounty for scalps rather than whole heads dates
from 1694. On September 12 of that year, the Massachusetts General Court
passed an act prohibiting unattended Indians from entering the colony without
permission and offering to pay for "every Indian, great or small, which they
shall kill, or take and bring in prisoner," the latter to be sold into slavery
by the colonial government. Payment listed for native scalps was L50 each,
regardlessof age or sex, if the killer were an average civilian or
professional scalp hunter; L20 each as supplement to the meager pay of
militiamen; and L10 each to regular soldiers.^261 These rates were
modified in 1704 so that an incredible L100 - four times the annual
income
of a good New England farmer - was paid per man's scalp, L40 per
woman's, and L20 per child's. "Men" and "women" were defined as being any
Indian over ten years of age.
end of quote footnoted source: 261. The Acts and Resoves of the Province of
the Massechusetts Bay, 21 vols.
(Boston: State of Massachusetts Historical Society; 1869 - 1922) Vol. 1,
pp
175-6, 594.
So Dawgie, is that good enough for you? There are more from where that came
from if this one isn't good enough for you... But if you want another one,
please move it off-list.
> or is it a work of fantasy like that produced by the black professor
Heard about that rubbish but never wasted any time on it.
> if it is in a similiar vein, blow it out of your barracks bag, buster.
It's not. This work has more footnotes then most history books. His
documentation is excellent.
> why do you not let anti-American love -hate thing you have with J OHN
Then why did you reply on-list??? I request replies off-list so
comments
like yours could be dealt with off-list. If I produced bogus rubbish
you could then forward it to the list and accomplish your goal without wasting
band-width.
By the way, I don't hate the U.S., only some of the things the U.S. has done,
but I can say that about most countries I know anything at all about. I think
the problem you and John Atkinson have is that I am NOT an "America Right or
Wrong" person.
John Atkinson, thank you very much for motivating me to find a true gem of a
book.
Now, now, Dawg, calm down.
At first I thought this post was trying to be inflammatory, or just another
chapter in a sad "No, I'm right/whose is bigger" contest better fought
out offline between the primaries.
Then it hit me.
Now, this is my first Camerone day on this list, but, like so many others,
this list must commemorate Camerone day by having list members post irrelevant
source material. Given the long discussion yesterday about Netiquette,
moderation, banning members, and taking flame wars off line, Imre's entry may
not have been the best choice. But then who amongst us is immune to occasional
lapses of judgment?
So take a deep breath, sit back, and submit an irrelevant reading choice of
your own to commemorate the fallen fighters of both sides, that terrible day,
on the dusty field of Camerone.
Cheers,
> From: "Robert Minadeo" <raminad@earthlink.net>
> Now, this is my first Camerone day on this list, but, like so many
Consider the confusion created for some of us, like myself, who (having lived
in So Cal for 12 years) have an affection for Mexican Culture, yet
also one for military history. I end up observing (In some small way) both
Camerone Day AND Cinco De Mayo.....
3B^2
> Consider the confusion created for some of us, like myself, who
both
> Camerone Day AND Cinco De Mayo.....
Granted.
The upside to commemorating "last stands" is that both sides have something
to celebrate/reflect on ;)
Is there any list specific Cinco De Mayo tradition I should be aware of? Would
hate to commit a faux paux on Sunday...
SAME THING WITH TEXANS- both days are celebrtate by some folks, all
though most folks never heard of CAMERONE, but do know what CINQUO DE
MAYO . . . . .