[OT]Cyber Squad

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Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_ Soldiers from Film
or TV to fight a battle to the death against a similar opponent in a
cyberspace urban environment using modern/futuristic weapons. Who would
you pick, and who would be squad leader?

> Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_ Soldiers
Who would you
> pick, and who would be squad leader?

If I have to participate personally, and if you really mean "similar
opponent", I'd pick the most inept klutzes I could
find, and then try to negotiate with my opposite number--who,
recognizing the quality of his team, would be inclined to negotiate.

But you probably don't mean "similar opponent", do you?

Hogan's Heroes... I'd take Hogan as the squad leader. Who needs modern weapons
and equipment when you've got Col. Hogan and his merry band of saboteurs.

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:40:10 -0000
From: "Denny Graver" <den_den_den@talk21.com>
Subject: [OT]Cyber Squad

Traffic seems quiet
Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_
Soldiers from Film or TV to fight a battle to the death against a similar
opponent in a
cyberspace urban environment using modern/futuristic
weapons. Who would you pick, and who would be squad leader?

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Cleats Balentine wrote:

1st would be Kelly from Kelly's hero's (excellent think on your feet Captain)
2nd Odd Ball from same ("Woof Woof! That was my other dog imitation") 3rd
Flint as in Our Man (excellent S2 "His face has been altered, see the scars
near the
ears?")
4th Maj Julian Cook (Robert Redford in Bridge too Far "Hail Mary, full of
grace) 5th Martin Q Blank (Grosse Pointe Blank "Thanks for the Pen, it came in
handy") 6th Jake Holman (Sand Pebbles, Great Engineer to fix things and a
great shot with a BAR) 7th Jacob McCandless ("I thought you was dead...Not
hardly")

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:13:34 -0800 (PST) Cleats Balentine
> <kevinbalentine@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_ Soldiers from

> Hogan's Heroes... I'd take Hogan as the squad leader. Who needs

So that's Hogan, Kinchloe, Newkirk, LeBeau, Carter... and who? And
would they be any good without their secret weapons -- Sgt Schultz
and Col. Klink? <g>

Of course, if sonic weapons are allowed, Major Hochstetter (sp?) would be a
must: "WHAT IS THIS MAN DOING HERE?" at 400dB would bring down the entire
city! <g>

Phil, who can't remember the name of the HH "outside man" -- but then,
he was only mentioned in the very first episode. Good for a scout, though...

In a message dated 1/16/00 10:41:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> den_den_den@talk21.com writes:

> Traffic seems quiet

The Really Hard One to Kill-
Keanu Reeve's cyber-character from "The Matrix"
The One Really Good at Killing Things Close Up-
The assassin from "The Professional"
the One Really Good at Sneaking Up and Killing Things from Far Away-
Berenger's character from "Sniper"
The One to Attract Attention-
Colonel Matrix (Schwarzeneggar) (Can't remember the movie's name, though)
The One to Blow Things Up-
Sylvester Stallone from "The Specialist"
The Human Sensor-system-
Luke Skywalker (the Force is a good thing to have on your side)
and, The Leader-
Eastwood as Gunny Highway from "Heartbreak Ridge"

Assuming these guys have a chance to learn how to work together. If not, Lt
Richard Sharpe, Sgt Hagman, and five Chosen Men of the 95th Rifles...

(Assuming they get to train with modern weapons first)

Rob

G'day Denny,

> Traffic seems quiet

While not exactly human, and only sorta on TV... <whatdya mean I broke the
rules? Rules what rules?>

I'd chose... Carrot Angua Nobby Colon Vimes Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax

though these last two would have to act as a detachment. Vimes would be
nominally in charge of course!;)
And yes I know they wouldn't use the weaponary too well - well not until
they figured out if you turned 'em around they make damn good clubs!

Cheers

Beth

> Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_ Soldiers
Who would you
> pick, and who would be squad leader?

Leader: Lord Vader Engineer: McGyver Arnold Schwarzenegger (pick a movie) John
Wayne (pick a movie) Spock
James Bond (detached/sniper/distraction)
Wesley, the Dread Pirate Roberts Keanu Reeves from Matrix

If we were allowing books, I'd want to consider Lieutenant Lord Miles Naismith
Vorkosigan

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Laserlight wrote:

> Leader: Lord Vader

Can't! "He's more machine now than man..."

> Engineer: McGyver

I'd prefer Scotty meself sorr

> Spock

Yaay, but he's not entirely human either. I'd have picked him otherwise...

> Traffic seems quiet

Arnie's character from Commando.
The cook. ;-)
Ripley. Vasquez. Yul Brunner's "Ultimate Soldier" (some retraining required).
Frank Parker. Squad leader: Sgt. Rock.

- Sam

Interesting survey...

-=Kr'rt

-------------------------------------------
The Team:
//\\Squad Leader - George  C. Scott's Patton

Kurt Russell's Snake Plissken (Escape From NY/LA)
Barry Pepper's Private Jackson (Sniper from Saving Pvt. Ryan)
Bruce Campbell's Ash (Evil Dead/Army of Darkness)
Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry Adam Baldwin's Animal Mother (Full Metal Jacket)
Michael Biehn's Kyle Reese (Terminator)

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Okay, I give up! Is this an inside joke from Down Under or something even more
obscure and deadly?

> "McClure, Kent" wrote:

> Okay, I give up! Is this an inside joke from Down Under or something

OK, this should make it clearer:

> > >

Six-foot tall dwarf

> > > Angua

Werewolf

> > > Nobby

Human (probably) with hygiene problem

> > > Colon

Overweight, ageing beat cop seeing out his time to retirement

> > > Vimes

Conscientious leader of the City Watch, recently elevated to the gentry by
marriage

> > > Nanny Ogg

Elderly witch with wicked sense of humour

> > > and Granny Weatherwax

Another witch with a darker side

There, that should clarify everything :-)

In a message dated 1/17/2000 5:15:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> laserlight@quixnet.net writes:

> If we were allowing books, I'd want to consider Lieutenant Lord

What about Leto II from Dune-something-or-other and team 2 from Rainbow?
-Stephen

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Laserlight wrote:

> >>Situation: You have to pick a squad of Seven _Human_ Soldiers

definitely!

> Arnold Schwarzenegger (pick a movie)

a good list; personally, i'd drop Vader, Wayne and Wesley, and add three
others.

i'd add Lee van Cleef, as he's by far the hardest western actor IMNERHO. John
Wayne? John Wayne can do my laundry, but he'd best keep off the
battlefield. Clint Eastwood, though - definitely. also, if you take Lee,
you can have him as his character from 'It Came From Outer Space', which would
sow confusion amongst the enemy (you'd be able to get two people for one name
on the team sheet), as both he and Keanu Reeve's character from

On 19-Jan-00 at 08:30, Tom Anderson
(thomas.anderson@university-college.oxford.ac.uk) wrote: > On Mon, 17
Jan 2000,
> Laserlight wrote:

Obviously you only watch the Dukes westerns. Clint Eastwood, yeah right. Take
away his big gun and he's nothing.

> Obviously you only watch the Dukes westerns. Clint Eastwood, yeah

Hmmm don't know what about the stare:)

Worth a reaction test?

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Roger Books wrote:

> Obviously you only watch the Dukes westerns. Clint Eastwood, yeah

Personally, I think between Clint, Wayne and McQueen, they could deal with any
problem that cropped up. Anyone else would be for good measure.

Throw in Toshiro Mifune for the slice and dice katana action up close and it'd
be really bloody.

On 19-Jan-00 at 09:41, Jeremey Claridge (jeremy.claridge@kcl.ac.uk)
wrote:
> > Obviously you only watch the Dukes westerns. Clint Eastwood, yeah

Would you take a reaction test for a stare when you were shooting at someone?

Oh no, he's looking at me.

> On 19-Jan-00 at 09:54, Ryan M Gill (monty@arcadia.turner.com) wrote:

You know, I might even choose a few people from Real Life(tm) over some of the
fictional characters. At the Ralph Foster Museum in Arkansas they have a
sharpshooters rifle from the ACW. The story with it is the two sides were
camped a little over a mile apart in a static situation. The opposing side had
a general that stepped out of his tent first thing in the morning and had a
good stretch within sight of the enemy. This sharpshooter estimated the range,
went of and sighted in his rifle, and then removed the general from the
equation.

Just so I'm clear, the shot was over a mile.

I don't know, maybe not so impressive when your rifle weighs 20 lbs and you
have a 'scope, even if it is primative. I was impressed though.

> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jeremey Claridge wrote:

> oh come on it works for Judge Dredd ;)

I'd much rather pick Clint over Dread. Dread is an overgrown cop with a speech
impedement. "Ehhhuhhh!"

Whereas Clint in many of his movies was the consumate executioner in a slow
methodical style, be it Pale Rider, Outlaw Josie Wales or in Kelly's Hero's.
(Remember when he shows up at Crap Game's place....Crap Game nearly well
crapped his pants.)

"see here mr carpetbagger, we have something round here we call a Missuri
boat ride...."

> Would you take a reaction test for a stare when you were shooting at

oh come on it works for Judge Dredd;) Who is someone I'd pick for my squad
without question.

> I'd much rather pick Clint over Dread. Dread is an overgrown cop with

Well naturally I would have been hoping for the comic book version. although
it's not exactly TV or Film.

***
The opposing side had a general that stepped out of his tent first thing in
the morning and had a good stretch within sight of the enemy. This
sharpshooter estimated the range, went of and sighted in his rifle, and then
removed the general from the equation.
***

This reminds me of a little film I saw, may have been a reference to the same
occurance as it was supposed to have been historical.

The general always had a static spot, can't recall if a chair by his tent, or
a shaving mirror. In the film, the bullet's travel was so long that the
general actually stepped out of the sight hairs to speak with a fellow
officer, then back into target area, perhaps even twice, before receiving the
shot.

As the whole time bullet was in air-to-target, chills me even now
to think about.

You don't have to read very much historical lit (I've been reading some Battle
of the Atlantic again recently) to find plenty of examples that make the most
obscene Hollywood fantasy pale. Crews
of either U-boats or escorts chasing them amaze me.

Heck, the merchant mariners that would get a ship blown out from under them,
drift on wreckage for days, then sign up for another run obviously had huge
ones of brass beyond my understanding.

Can I call this getting too OT yet?

The_Beast

> ***

And there was a Japanese who did this by sighting on a parapet during the day,
making measurements to position his rifle, then firing at night, mortally
wounding the general. It was in a
Kurosawa film--Kagemusha?--and I've been told it was based on an
historical incident.

I can not remember the individuals name but there was a Fuedal Japanese army
that was being pursued by an army of much greater size. A samurai was said to
have volunteered to defend a small bridge to slow down the opposing army. The
opposing army upon seeing the lone samurai on the bridge lined up his archers
and let loose. The samurai, using his naginata, proceeded to deflect the
arrows. They then sent in the infantry to clear him off. After several minutes
and dead and wounded later they withdrew. THey then sent a group to ford the
difficult river and attack from both sides. After several more minutes and
several more dead and dying the withdrew. THe opposing army decided to leave
at the point and honored the samurai. Of course I think he later died of the
wounds later but this is pretty impressive. Something like this could only
happen before gunpowder though.

That Chuk Guy

> -----Original Message-----

[quoted original message omitted]

G'day Rob,

> What about Detritus (Don't salute!)- if the enemy hurt you, he'll break

Was trying to keep them at human (or as close as possible given we talking
about the Disc) - I couldn't just go and break ALL the rules (gotta keep
some for later);)

Cheers

Beth