[OT] Conservatives, Liberals and the rest of us

1 posts ยท Sep 14 2002

From: Tom B <kaladorn@g...>

Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 18:44:28 -0400

Subject: [OT] Conservatives, Liberals and the rest of us

Seems to me most of the people I know (in my generation) align themselves with
liberal social values (toleration of marijuana (either because they don't
think it is any worse than alcahol or as a strict matter of fiscal
pragmatism), toleration of homosexual marriages (do what you want with whom
you want, just don't bug me about it), toleration of free thinking, free
speech, the right to
question authority, protest in a non-destructive manner, etc). They
also believe in technological prowess, education, and hard work. They don't
believe in affirmitive action, sex discrimination, government moral oversight,
censorship, etc.

Simultaneously, most of them align themselves against unlimited gun ownership,
against high taxes, against large government, against unmonitored social
spending, and against government crookedness. And pro defence, pro military,
and pro entrepeneurship.

This mostly seems like common sense and boils down to "let the people keep
their money, keep government out of social matters, let government monitor
things like roads, schools, etc. that are public good locations, and have
government that has integrity and accountability".

Now, as an exercise, try to find a party that supports such policies in
Canada. I know *I* have no idea who I'll be voting for next election.... which
is downright sad. And to vote (because the perogative itself is sacred) for
the "least of many evils" sure seems like a crappy recommendation for
democracy.

I think in the GZGverse (to vainly try for on-topic), people are
probably still being mis-classified, grouped when such a grouping is
misleading, poorly represented by their governments, etc. I think the "No Good
Guys" applies trebly to the GZGverse governments, who all seem vaguely weasely
(some less vaguely than others!).

Tomb

PS - If US liberals are pro tax, pro big gov't, pro social welfare
state and US conservatives are anti-tax, pro big gov't and anti
welfare state, what are the protectionist deep south conservatives? They
aren't pro free trade, yet they get called conservative due to
their social convictions. And what is an anti-tax, anti-big gov't,
anti-welfare state person? Another flavour of conservative? At the
end of the day, what meaning does any label have if it can't adequately
encompass two or three individually bifurcate or mutlifurcate categories?
Answer: Probably not useful for anything but sound bytes!