[OT] Colonial educational and justice systems, with rant.

2 posts ยท Feb 2 2002 to Feb 3 2002

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:30:54 -0800 (PST)

Subject: [OT] Colonial educational and justice systems, with rant.

> --- Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >Roads are incredibly expensive to build and

Also expense and ease of maintinence. Oh, and fuel costs.

> Not to mention that not ALL the kids will need a

NRE's educational opinions are colored by the fact that I'm young enough to
remember high school and cynical enough to consider it 4 years of
imprisionment for the crime of puberty. A more seamless and
primarily computer- and datanet-driven education that
cuts out the mindless makework and actually teaches something useful (the only
high school course that taught anything I didn't know prior to walking in the
door and that I still use on a regular basis was a typing course. That will be
a mandatory part of elementary school.) It'll be neither mandatory nor
expensive to take any course listed on the planetary
datanets.  Here's the kicker--both the parent(s) and
the student have to agree on a course schedule. The "educational system"
consisting of underqualified idiots feeding at the public trough[1] will be
stripped down to a handful of advisors who will
function more like counsellors--providing information
on what is available, what is required for employment in certain fields, and
making reccomendations for modification of study programs based on
performance.
Human tutors are available--but before you can legally
charge money for educational services in the NRE, you have to actually have a
degree in the subject in question (no such thing as an "Education" major
trying
to teach physics) _and_ have demonstrated proficiency
in the field by at least 5 years employment in the private sector.

The function of preventing juvenile delinquiency is assumed by the police and
courts, where it belongs.
The NRE doesn't have a juvenile justice system--it
nails child offenders to the wall[2]. And the fact
that the parents/guardians of a juvenile who commits a
crime more serious than speeding are considered guilty of child neglect. But
then, I'm pretty torqued at the
modern American method of child raising--depend on
television and movies and school teachers[1] to do everything while spending
less than an hour a week (you think I'm joking, check the statistics) actually
communicating with their progeny.

I'm assuming that the datanet will be one of the first pieces of
infrastructure put into place in a colony, just after the food distribution
networks.

and if we
> assume/PHB our way into the setting where large

Yeah, but those large farms/ranches are going to have
to deal with a lot of issues not faced by modern
farmers/ranchers.  Genemodding crops, robot
maintinence and programming, etc. Xenoagricultural Studies bachelor degrees
may be required for supervisory positions, and running a farm may require a
PhD.

John

[1]I had maybe half a dozen teachers in high school
that were bright enough to hold a conversation with. The rest epitomized the
adage that those who can't do, teach.
[2]Figuratively.  Crucifiction is not permitted under
NRE law. Beheading is the preferred method of execution except for
particularly heinous offenses (treason[3], espionage, being a member of
Amnesty International, etc). Those we impale.
[3]Defined as "Making War against the Roman People or
interfering with the legitemate sucession of the Emperor of the Romans."

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:55:21 +1100

Subject: RE: [OT] Colonial educational and justice systems, with rant.

G'day again,

> Yeah, but those large farms/ranches are going to have

I'd tend to disagree, depending on how new the technology is it may be old hat
to any child to know about these things while in primary school. Its the
agricultural equivalent of the video/computer leaps our kids take for
granted - Lachy and Janneke can both program the video and regularly use
our computer with no fuss... something their grandfather can't manage at all
and if he can he can't do it without looking flustered.

Cheers