[OT] Bug history was: Starship Troopers

DAWGFACE47@webtv.net schrieb:
> BUGS, AS MOST FOLKS VIEW THEM NOW, CAN TRACE THEIR

I think the "bugs" idea goes back further than the movie "Starship Troopers".
The GW Tyranids are defintiely earlier. They, in turn, seem to owe much to
"Alien" (late 1970's).

Greetings

For a good game with bugs try Kryomek (these are close combat bugs but also
have ranged weapons like spore launchers and corroder lances *chuckles evilly*

Would probably translate to Stargrunt easily, I played Kryomek quite often
years ago, but the rulebook is still a joy to browse through

> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:

More to "Aliens" than to "Alien" I would think.

It is said that the original playtest set of Space Hulk had a token marked
"CLG", standing for "Cute Little Girl".

> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:
The aliens in the TTG 'Kryomek' are much closer to the Tyranids and
pre-date the GW stuff quite significantly. Although I wouldn't argue
with the assertion that Kryomek was influenced by the 'alien' movies.

                                TTFN
                                        Jon

G'day,

> I think the "bugs" idea goes back further than the movie "Starship

I haven't been paying much attention to this thread (yes I'm sorry and I will
go and sit in the corner now), but I would've thought that the ideas stretched
much further back than that. No hard references to back that up mind, but just
based on comments my granddad made about books he read in his childhood and
stories he and his brothers made up using beetles etc.

Cheers

> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:

> I think the "bugs" idea goes back further than the movie "Starship

I'm pretty sure there is an older A.E. Van Vogt (sp?) story that featured an
alien that used humans as egg hosts.

Talk to you later,

BUGS, did  exist in sci-fi all the  way back to  a story about
intellignt ants in the amazon by HG WELLs, whiich is the erliest reference i
can find.

before i sold them off before a move in the 70s, i had not only ACE
sci-f- paperbacks  from  ye ancient $0.25 and $0.35 cent  single and
double novels to the then current G series latest issues.

i also had pulp magazines, all the way back to the 30s on up through the 70s,
and included here were many magazine titles most folks have never even heard
of.

beautifull lurid covers, with BEM (BUG EYED MONSTERS) and BBW ( BIG BOSSOMED
WOMEN) on them.

also on the ace, pocketbook, signet, pyramid, bantam, and etc, paper back
publishers.

bugs did appear now and then.

but ALIEN owes its (much improved!) monster to an old movie made in 1957 or
1958 called IT! THE TERROR BEYOND SPACE!, and the crashed alien starship owes
its look to an alien starship in another movie VAMPIRES FROM SPACE or maybe
SPACE VAMPIRES made in the early 60s.

yes- i am well aware  that  Tyranids (an outgrowth of the original GW
genestealer concept).

 and the  genestealers can trace their	ancestry to   short  story
called WHO GOES THERE?, the original 1950s movie version of this story called
THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD, the remake of this movie, and of course ALIEN.

the ARACHNIDS from STARSHIP TROOPERS (the book) are much more dangerous
enemies than the bugs of STARSHIP TROOPERS (the movie).

DAWGIE, who has just heard  about some  allegedly 6-10 foot long

So long as those worms and covered in pink fur I wouldn't worry about it.

> DAWGFACE47@webtv.net wrote:

> DAWGIE, who has just heard about some allegedly 6-10 foot long

G'day,

> DAWGIE, who has just heard about some allegedly 6-10 foot long

And they're as thick as a broom handle and completely harmless to humans
(makes a nice change for Aussie fauna I guess)... except for the 10 billion
viagra jokes elderly Professors throw at you as you handle them!;)

Cheers

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:

> G'day,

What? Oz fauna that *isn't* venomous/toothed/otherwise instantly fatal?
You're slipping down there, Beth.

> ... except for the 10 billion

Won't start with this one.

And nobody, nobody mention the Phalons & viagra in the same sentence, OK?

oops...

Running,

G'day,

> What? Oz fauna that *isn't* venomous/toothed/otherwise

I thought the variety was in number of limbs - zero to however many a
milipede or jellyfish has.

--Binhan

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Just why do I get flashbacks to the Deathworld trilogy book 1 by Harry
Harrison whenever someone starts talking about OZ's Fauna?

> At 10:19 AM 2/22/02 +1100, you wrote:

> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:

> G'day,

Probably because Oz is the closest analogy you'll find to a deathworld.
*Everything* is out to get you (including all those people wandering around).
I was told earlier this week that the Sydney Funnelweb Spider is only lethal
to mammals. It paralyses other species instead.

> On Friday, February 22, 2002 12:14 PM, Randall L Joiner wrote:

> Harrison whenever someone starts talking about OZ's Fauna?

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G'day,

> I was told earlier this week that the Sydney Funnelweb Spider

Actually I thought it was deadliest for primates, whereas other mammals
(e.g. cats/dogs) were relatively resistant. That's what's always freaked
me out... its in Australia and primates (i.e. humans in this case) weren't to
relatively recently... colossual fluke or nasty cosmic joke?;)

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On 23-Feb-02 at 08:20, Beth.Fulton@csiro.au (Beth.Fulton@csiro.au)
wrote:
> G'day,
weren't to
> relatively recently... colossual fluke or nasty cosmic joke? ;)

No stranger than poison ivy. It causes allergic reactions in most humans
(don't know about the rest of the primates) but has no affect on most other
mammals.

In a message dated 2/23/02 10:34:16 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> Robin.Paul@tesco.net writes:

> The classic line from the film was from William Conrad (best known as
The
> ants were full.

Actually no. He survived. He tried to convince Heston to abandon his plantaion
and come back down river with him. Heston refused.

(Can you tell AMC had that movie on about a week ago:o)

Randy

Jeremy Clarkson (English Xenophobe and columnist) recently wrote an article in
the times listing Australian deadly species and suggesting that God
meant it as a zoological dustbin - then the English needed a large open
prison..............

There have been several interesting replies to the times - the sort that

start Dear Pommie Bastards before getting insultang. John

> At 00:18 24/02/2002 +1100, you wrote:

Dr PJD Lambshead Head, Nematode Research Group Department of Zoology The
Natural History Museum London SW7 5BD, UK.
Tel +44 (0)20 7942 5032
Fax +44 (0)20 7942 5433

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