[OT] Back from SALUTE

Oh Oh! Power Projection news? Did you get any?

Later, Mark A. Siefert

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Well I'm back from SALUTE.

Met lots of people(hooray), didn't take many pictures(boo), spent a
respectable amount of money (hooray-ish).

You can see the pictures I did take here. I had this list in mind for the
photos which includes a picture of the new Old Crow Hammers Slammers Tank.

Pictures are here http://www.germy.co.uk/salute.htm

Have fun

Jeremey www.germy.co.uk

> On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:05:14PM +0100, Germy wrote:

Ditto, ditto and ditto... :-)

> You can see the pictures I did take here. I had this list in mind for

That was a very impressive piece of kit - not that I can justify
25mm-scale vehicles, but...

Friends corrupted into buying the FT rules and a fleet pack: 1 more today.

Cheers,

Well, I was kind of fishing for any news about PP: Fleets. Were any games of
that played?

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> Well I'm back from SALUTE.

What? No pic of Amazon's rented real-life Lara Croft lookalike (mind
you, looked a bit like a bloke to me..... <grin>) or Mel, our very own Perky
Goth booth-babe....?*

Hope everyone who came along had fun. We did quite well, though we felt it was
maybe just a little down on attendance over last year. How did it feel from
the other side of the tables?

> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 12:49:43PM +0100, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Hope everyone who came along had fun. We did quite well, though we felt

Didn't feel as crowded as last year - more demo games, perhaps fewer
traders? I know some of them were muttering about expense and whether it was
really worth it...

Cheers,

R

> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 12:49:43PM +0100, Ground Zero Games wrote:

Well, I don't think there is any question for us about whether it was
worth it.... but, I will admit that the ratio of expenses-to-turnover
for the day is certainly greater (ie worse) than many other shows. Still, one
day at Salute is worth about the same to us as a month's mailorder!!

We always dread the approach of Salute, but in the end anticipation always
turns out to be much worse than realisation - yes, it may be incredibly
busy, but it all runs so smoothly despite that. All kudos and thanks to the
Warlords for their amazing organisational effort. In some ways, it's all
quite fun really.....  ;-)

> What? No pic of Amazon's rented real-life Lara Croft lookalike (mind

Oh no Jon, there must be some perks to attending the show. I got to see Mel,
it was indeed Mel who fulfilled my GZG miniature needs. To all those who
weren't there, well too bad:)

> Hope everyone who came along had fun. We did quite well, though we felt

It did seem quiet. But I think things were more spread out. It also seemed
like not many people stayed beyond lunch time. Just wish I'd got round to
taking more pictures and discussing some of the demo games a bit more.

Jeremey www.germy.co.uk

> What? No pic of Amazon's rented real-life Lara Croft lookalike (mind

Well, as long as you got your needs fulfilled....  ;-)

Mel enjoyed herself, and hopefully we may manage to drag her along to other
shows occasionally - considering she'd never actually worked behind the
stall before I think she did a pretty good job, given the frantic nature of
the day. It was her first experience of a proper wargame show (she's been
to Dragonmeet a couple of times - one year in full Gilly costume!)  - at
least now she believes us about just what Salute is like...
(Plus she's a regular Anime con-attendee, so wargamers seem positively
normal by comparison....)
:-)

Jon (GZG)

PS: there's a chap we know who goes to the anime cons who makes a FAR more
convincing Lara Croft than the "professional" one at Salute, and that is a
REALLY scary thought....   ;-)

> Hope everyone who came along had fun. We did quite well, though we

Mister Siefert

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Hi Neil,

> On Monday, Apr 28, 2003, at 06:51 Europe/London, Neil McGurk wrote:

> Well, I was kind of fishing for any news about PP: Fleets. Were any

Current realistic first feelings are 3-4 months, depending on both Andy
and my jobs (forex I was in work for 12+ hours today and am doing more
here at home (or would be if I hadn't downloaded the last 3 days
email)).

Cover artwork is in final stages - text is pretty much there and is
being laid out by Andy, I'm now working on graphics for the SSDs.

> We didn't play any games of PP:Fleets at Salute. We ran three games of

> Clean

First game had the young kid and his dad, plus another chap, and was pretty
close with nuclear oblivion. 2nd Game had two fleets charge to point blank and
have one ship left on each side, each mission killed with damaged bridge, the
victory going to the player with the slowest vector who stayed on the board
longest. 3rd game 'Let the Wookie Win' went to the wire and nearly ended up
with you winning. ISTR that of the 7 ships in the battle, 5 were lost in one
turn from missile swarms overwhelming the point defenses simultaneously.

That jog your memory ;-)

Ahh, the fun of good clean nuclear slaughter. Sounds like fun. Actually,

sounds like my FT games with the other half (well, it does when a DD strays in
front of a BB at a range of less than 1MU, ouch).

BIF

> From: Dominic Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>

> each side, each mission killed with damaged bridge, the victory going

Dom, did you really say, "To fulfil all of your daily nutritional requirements
you would need to drink a glass of orange juice, two glasses of milk, and 47
pints of Guinness."?

The_Beast

I think he meant 7. Guinness is highly nutritional. I think the milk is only
in there for the calcium and the OJ is for vitamin C.

--Binhan

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> I think he meant 7. Guinness is highly nutritional. I think the milk

I was questioning the OJ; it's not THAT good a source of C. ;->=

The_Beast

Hello Dom,

I was of course referring to the Zhodani/3rd Imperium results. :-)

I'm far too modest to claim a victory in PP against a person who had only been
playing minutes. All right I forgot the golden rule of participation games.

Neil

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> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 09:32 Europe/London, david smith wrote:

> Ahh, the fun of good clean nuclear slaughter. Sounds like fun.

Well, in PP you can be nasty as the missiles move in two phases over two turns
so you can be *really* evil and land two turns of missile salvos in a single
round on the same target!!!

As most escorts have 2 to 10 structure boxes, and a nuke battery does
damage (against a typical ship on a 4,5,6 (6= 2 points and re-roll), 8
hits is pretty nasty. Unless you've point defense (which is less effective
than FT), sand and nuclear dampers deployed.

Nukes are dead good until you meet a target with good dampers. Or meson
guns ;-)

Cheers,

> On Tuesday, Apr 29, 2003, at 19:53 Europe/London, Neil McGurk wrote:

> I was of course referring to the Zhodani/3rd Imperium results. :-)

I think the three battles were a score draw overall...

> I'm far too modest to claim a victory in PP against a person who had

;-) But he won in the end ;-)