[OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

13 posts ยท Mar 11 1999 to Nov 10 1999

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:23:52 -0600

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> Magnus Alexandersson wrote:

A little over an inch tall. (In real life, a gear would be around
12-15 feet in height).

> As big as the old 15-20 or bigger?

        Smaller, the old RAFMM gears were around 3-4 inches tall.

> Is the Heavy Gear tabletop game good?

Excellent!

> Fast? And compared to Battletech? (...which I just have watched, but

Very fast! If you want to get an idea of HG's mechanics, DP9 has a
downloadedable demo of the tactical game on thier WWW site:

        http://www.dp9.com/Funhouse/PDFS/hg_demo.pdf

From: Magnus Alexandersson <m96maal@m...>

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:58:19 +0100 (MET)

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 dadams@parracity.nsw.gov.au wrote:

> Ahhh,there is nothing like babes and high powered weaponry :-)

Had a look at the Mobile Suit Girls, are they 25mm?

Looks like there might be promise to those minis, doesn't look _that_
bad. The only problem is that I would like a few different kinds of
landmates/mechas. And not all girls... Might have to do a campaign on an

amazon planet... That does have promise... *ahem* Wrong list..:)

> That same range also has some landmates in 25mm. They are quite
(Maybe the
> Heavy Gear could work, but they are 15mm, they may look out of scale).
If
> St.Jon

> mailorder

15 mm mechs from Heavy Gear? Is that those on DP9's site?

Are those 15mm?? Url?

> The problems with the kits, is that the head really needs to be pinned
			      ^^^^^^^^
url?

While we're there, does anyone use Denizen minis? Pics?

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:08:07 +0000

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> <<<
(Maybe the
> Heavy Gear could work, but they are 15mm, they may look out of scale).
If
> St.Jon

We still make them, but the GZ-05A and B are actually the oldest minis
we still have in our ranges! They were done a LONG time ago, and yes, I agree
they are certainly not up to the standard of current stuff - they were
actually made by a sculptor who created his masters in metal rather than
milliput or greenstuff! We keep them in the range because they DO still
sell, and we've never got round to replacing them..... :-/

Jon (GZG)
> The problems with the kits, is that the head really needs to be pinned

From: dadams@p...

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:19:21 +1000

Subject: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

<<<
Hi folks!

All this talk about anime led me to dive into my comics bin back at my parents
house. I found a copy of Appleseed! Whoa, I thought, this is
_years_ ago I read those. So after an afternoon with nose in the world
of the great Shirow, I thought of getting my hands dirty and convert some
landmates from my bitbox. After hitting myself hard over the head, recovering
from such silly notions, I therefore turn to you.
> [quoted text omitted]

Ahhh,there is nothing like babes and high powered weaponry :-)

> [quoted text omitted]
And yes there are a girlie on the onlinecatalogue who's suspiciously alike
Deunan... *ahem* *shock* There's Briareos!;)
<<<

That same range also has some landmates in 25mm. They are quite frankly crap,
but they are the best approximations for Landmates in that scale. (Maybe the
Heavy Gear could work, but they are 15mm, they may look out of scale). If
St.Jon no longer produces them, Saint Nik at Eureka does, and would proberbly
mailorder to you.

The problems with the kits, is that the head really needs to be pinned to the
body, as there is NO WAY that sucker glues on normally. I use the landmate in
mu
OU army. I have 1 done up, as a scout/recon element to my HQ squad, but
my army
is hevily mecha-ised (I use Patlabor Helldivers as airborne armour.

Darryl
///Magnus

URL: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md8maal

From: RWHofrich@a...

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:35:32 EST

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

In a message dated 11/8/99 4:59:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> m96maal@mtek.chalmers.se writes:

> 15 mm mechs from Heavy Gear? Is that those on DP9's site?

I've got some of the older Heavy Gear figures and they are not really
15mm--more like 20mm.  They do mix well with Galoob/Micromachines Star
Wars figures though...

Rob

From: Steve Gill <Steve@c...>

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:41:27 -0000

Subject: RE: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

RWHofrich@aol.com

> > 15 mm mechs from Heavy Gear? Is that those on DP9's site?

The old range of gears were made at 1:87 scale, they just seem to go better
with 15mm than 20mm.

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From: Magnus Alexandersson <m96maal@m...>

Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 21:53:38 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> Steve Gill wrote:
Any1 got pics online?

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:00:41 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Magnus Alexandersson wrote:

> Steve Gill wrote:

Just one - see <http://warbard.iwarp.com/sg2gallery.html> and look about
half-way down the page - it's a Hunter Recon 'gear', primered black but
not yet painted... poor thing still isn't painted, in fact, and that photo
is months old. It's a bit modified, as well. Straight-from-the-box gears
looked a bit different.

There's sites out there dedicated to Heavy Gear, I know, which undoubtably
have lots of gear photos. I don't have URLs, though. Anyone?

From: Aaron Teske <ateske@H...>

Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 20:13:44 -0500

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> At 09:53 PM 11/9/99 +0100, Magnus wrote:

I have a few, "at http://www.hicom.net/~teske/minis/HG.html", though
those are pictures that were taken with a pretty cruddy camera. Other sites
are
available off my HG links page (~teske/hgear/links.html, I think).

For a size comparison, the average Hunter has a height of about 1.5 inches at
the shoulder, where the RAFM infantry for HG were 0.75" tall. Jon's 25mm figs
are roughly 1" tall. I don't have any 15mm figs to compare Gears
to, but which scale to use them with is pretty flexible IMO -- you could
argue that Jon's 25mm figs could fit in a Gear, though not anything larger
(like GW or Warzone). Keep in mind that in HG, a person's head is usually
inside the Gear's head... for one thing, if the sensors get blown off, the
pilot can raise the sensor cluster and still see. (Think something like the
Ingram in Patlabor, which had the "normal" mode with the pilot's head just
below the Ingram's.)

Later,

From: Magnus Alexandersson <m96maal@m...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:57:20 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

As long as we're on the subject here. The new, DP9 Gears, how big are they?
Any1 got a clue?

As big as the old 15-20 or bigger?

Is the Heavy Gear tabletop game good?

Fast? And compared to Battletech? (...which I just have watched, but there
were alot of dicerolling and paperkeeping...;)

From: Steve Gill <Steve@c...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:15:54 -0000

Subject: RE: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> Magnus Alexandersson wrote:

Around 1" tall.
> As big as the old 15-20 or bigger?

Much smaller. Scaled to around 1:120 / 1:144
> Is the Heavy Gear tabletop game good?

Very nice, though expensive for what you get (at least it is over here).
> Fast? And compared to Battletech? (...which I just have watched, but

Very much faster. It's not too unusual to see gears completely destroyed by
one attack, and no you don't need much paperwork.
> ///Magnus who won't let go when he's got a thread going...; )

Milk it while you can ;-)

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From: Chris McCurry <CMCCURR@v...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:19:59 -0600

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

I have a few of the new Gears and are a lot smaller (I personally liked the
15mm scale) I'd say they are roughly the size of a 28mm GW figure.

the HG game is decent. I played it for the first time at a recent local con
and enjoyed my self quite a bit. there is still a lot of table look ups, but
not as many as battle tech.

All in all it's fast if people know what they want to do (I believe there is a
basic set of rules and an advanced set of rules which, I'm sure, effect game
speed.

I like HG mostly because of the gear scale... they are more like oversized
power armor than a full blown mech. (mecha) instead of huge robot buildings
you have small mechanized infantry

Chris

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From: Magnus Alexandersson <m96maal@m...>

Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:09:22 +0100

Subject: Re: [OT] Appleseed & Landmates which is On Topic

> I like HG mostly because of the gear scale... they are more like

This was the next question that popped up... I don't like those 10 story
mechas, more a fan of Shirow's Landmates and such.