OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

7 posts ยท May 19 2002 to May 21 2002

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 22:46:24 -0400

Subject: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

> At 6:52 PM -0700 5/18/02, John Atkinson wrote:

You know that's not really good for relations with the CO....Was your CO in it
at the time?
> Nope. First, it was the M728, second it's out of the

Hmm. Have you played with the new (or is it still prototype) M1Abrams based
AVLB or Grizzly?

> I was up until about a month ago. You see, it's the

but then all those folks need training on that particular vehicle's operation
and maintenance work....

> I have no idea. My trailer experience is limited to

The armored car I'm looking at is smaller than a HMMWV and weighs 4 tons. Its
the Dingo. Not quite in the same class as the larger
stuff...

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

> --- Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:

Yup. Him, his driver, my platoon leader, my platoon sergeant.

See, what happened was that the brakes failed. Brakes had been dodgy on this
vehicle for about 3 weeks. We had it in writing that we'd been reporting this
problem and I had witnesses who could swear that I expressed a serious problem
with driving the vehicle and got overridden.

My CO didn't say a single negative word to me, but he roundly cussed out my PL
and PSG (for ordering me to drive it). I thought he was going to throw his
kevlar at my PL, but he settled for chucking it at his HMMWV.

3 times.

> >Nope. First, it was the M728, second it's out of

Grizzly is DOA. Wolverine is only in service with 588th, but our Batallion
Commander swears we are getting them in December.:)

> >I was up until about a month ago. You see, it's

Yeah. It was, until 1996, a seperate MOS (12F) but they got merged as a "cost
saving" measure.

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:36:32 -0400

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

> At 5:56 PM -0700 5/19/02, John Atkinson wrote:

[snip]

> 3 times.

Wow...You aren't in the dog house with your PL and PSG now are you?

> > >Nope. First, it was the M728, second it's out of

Damn. The Grizzly looked like a pretty choice piece of hardware for executing
breaches of obstacles and minefields. I've always thought the russian and
German armored EV's with the remote digging equipment were pretty useful.
> Yeah. It was, until 1996, a seperate MOS (12F) but

If all the needed cross training is getting done then it's probably not too
bad. I'd worry that some of the imporant knowledge isn't getting across.

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:02:46 +1000

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

From: "John Atkinson" <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com>

> > >Ummm. . . I hit the HMMWV. HMMWV lost, and my

> My CO didn't say a single negative word to me, but he

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:54:53 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

--- Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@webone.com.au>
wrote:

> > My CO didn't say a single negative word to me, but

WTF is nous? I kind of get it from context, but.

Ranger Rick is well known as being a little psychotic,
but he does have a firm grasp on _why_ things happen
in his company.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:03:42 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

> --- Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:

> >3 times.

No, my PL is torqued at my PSG (for a list of reasons, and I'm a peripheral
one) but neither one thinks I did it deliberately.

Besides which, if they breathed a word to me, I'd drop dimes. I'm an asshole
when it comes to that.

> Damn. The Grizzly looked like a pretty choice piece

Yeah, if it all works. Of course, US troops could keep those puppies working.
Griz was going to rock, but since the US Congress is too irresponsible to
appropriate sufficient funds for the Balkan missions, something had to give,
and it's easier politically to kill an Engineer vehicle than a cannon.

> >Yeah. It was, until 1996, a seperate MOS (12F) but

That's a long story full of "Yes, but" issues, but it works out to this:
Combat Engineers are generally smart and flexible and far less likely to kill
themselves in the process of learning how to play with new equipment than some
people might imagine.

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:31:11 +0100

Subject: Re: OT 1:1 scale vehicle transport and Tracked Road Kill

> John Atkinson wrote:

> --- Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@webone.com.au>
From www.yourdictionary.com

"NOUS - /'naus/ chiefly British : COMMON SENSE, ALERTNESS"

Which is probably what you've already guessed.