Origins of the red hand of Ulster (OT) (Hist)

4 posts ยท Oct 27 1998 to Oct 29 1998

From: The cat that walks by Himself <catwalk@i...>

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:33:05 +0000

Subject: Origins of the red hand of Ulster (OT) (Hist)

WARNING THE FOLLOWING IS WRITTEN BY A UNIONIST PROTESTANT AND THEREFORE IS
LIKELY TO HACK OFF REPUBLICAN SYMPATHISERS. IF YOU BACK THE TERRORISTS THEN
DON`T GURN AT ME IF I OFFEND YOU.

The red hand of Ulster has nothing to do with the long running terrorist
campaign going on here. Nor does it have anything to do with the Roman
Catholic faith though it would make a good symbol for it. (A argumentative
comment I know, but given the crimes against humanity commited in the name of
that faith can you argue otherwise? I won`t even mention the R.C.`s attempts
to exterpate Protestantism from Ireland) The red hand stems back to pagan
times, the story goes
like this:-
a ship is approaching a new island (Ireland, more specifically Ulster) for the
first time, the captain of the ship says he will give the island to the first
of his crewmen to touch it. The crew all gather at the front of the ship
planning on swimming to shore when they get close enough. The ship gets close
enough and crewmen go into the water. One of the crewmen, who wasn`t in the
first wave into the water, cuts his hand off and throws it at the shore, it
touches the land before any of the swimmers and thus he got the island.
(Though if he had known what he was getting he would probably not have
bothered and our symbol would be a hand dripping water or some such other
sillyness). The hand is red to symbolise

From: Owen Glover <oglover@b...>

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:27:11 +1000

Subject: RE: Origins of the red hand of Ulster (OT) (Hist)

Just to support this story. Look in your local librabry under Irish Mythology
and it is consitently recorded as Neil has written here.

OK, maybe not the smartest way to win an island!?

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From: Thomas Anderson <thomas.anderson@u...>

Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:14:37 +0000 (GMT)

Subject: Re: Origins of the red hand of Ulster (OT) (Hist)

> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, The cat that walks by Himself wrote:

i stand enlightened; i'd always wondered about the origin of that symbol.
sorry if i dissed ulstermen - i never purposely offend anyone except the
french and americans. oh, and australians that one time, but they started
it. :-) :-) :-) please take this as frivolously as it was intended!

Tom

From: The cat that walks by Himself <catwalk@i...>

Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:34:09 +0000

Subject: Re: Origins of the red hand of Ulster (OT) (Hist)

No hassles, have fun, some day I`ll finish working Ulster`s future history,
then you`ll be sorry *g*.

> Thomas Anderson wrote: