One Ring To Bind Them

9 posts ยท Oct 13 1999 to Oct 16 1999

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:47:59 -0400

Subject: One Ring To Bind Them

Nine Rings for GZG Kings....

I agree with the suggestion that the FT ring be renamed the GZG ring and the
graphic be amended accordingly. It is more "inclusionary".

My thought for the GZG ring was just that if I'm looking to find and SG2
thingie, I have to hop through FT links to get there. I'm not saying the GZG
ring is overcrowded for what it is, but it is lacking if you want to just look
through stuff for a particular game.

But let's advance another idea for disussion and hope some of our Web Gurus
will speak to it:

Right now, our web ring provides single hop travel, five hop travel,
random travel, and html-formatted listing. These are good (though I've
hit a few sites where the one-hop travel just leads to itself).

Would it be feasible to put a selection on the graphic (make it a tad bigger)
that shows the list but only shows FT sites, another for SG sites, and another
for DS2 sites? I'm sure somewhere that when you register a site for the list,
you could just select what categories it would cover, and when the html list
was generated for the ring, if the user selected that option instead of
grabbing the full list, you could just grab the ones that had the SG2 tag.

Is this at all reasonable? It would make searching the ring for the kind of
stuff you want to get to (if you have less ecclectic interests or a specific
search goal) possible.

Also, would it be hard to write a search engine tool that used the ring list
as a "target space" and searched those sites and their linked pages for what
you wanted? ie I want to find leader loss checks, but I have no idea they are
on Jed Sadler's page. I would love to be able to type in "Leader Loss" and
somewhere convenient and have it spitback results from the ring pages. This
would be in preference to the use of a full fledged search engine which might
or might not ever get anything from the ring in its 11456 hits on leader
loss.....

Is this possible or at all feasible?

From: Michael T Miserendino <MTMiserendino@l...>

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:21:00 -0500

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

I like one ring as well. Good point about making categories. Not sure about
making mulitple buttons per category as it would make the graphic larger. As a
developer I'm not always found of putting a bunch of web rings on a page and
especially not large ones. The page can start looking like a big bulletin
board when all you want is a nice little link to the ring. It would make sense
to just catagorize each site by GZG game, miniatures, etc in the list sites
section. This way if you want a specific type of site you can get it from the
list or just pick one randomly or in sequence. This

would also allow for ease of adding new categories over time and updates.

Mike

Michael Miserendino Senior Software Engineer Lincoln Re mtmiserendino@lnc.com

> owner-gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU at internet 10/13 12:45 PM >>>
Nine Rings for GZG Kings....

I agree with the suggestion that the FT ring be renamed the GZG ring and the
graphic be amended accordingly. It is more "inclusionary".

My thought for the GZG ring was just that if I'm looking to find and SG2
thingie, I have to hop through FT links to get there. I'm not saying the GZG
ring is overcrowded for what it is, but it is lacking if you want to just look
through stuff for a particular game.

But let's advance another idea for disussion and hope some of our Web Gurus
will speak to it:

Right now, our web ring provides single hop travel, five hop travel,
random travel, and html-formatted listing. These are good (though I've
hit a few sites where the one-hop travel just leads to itself).

Would it be feasible to put a selection on the graphic (make it a tad bigger)
that shows the list but only shows FT sites, another for SG sites, and another
for DS2 sites? I'm sure somewhere that when you register a site for the list,
you could just select what categories it would cover, and when the html list
was generated for the ring, if the user selected that option instead of
grabbing the full list, you could just grab the ones that had the SG2 tag.

Is this at all reasonable? It would make searching the ring for the kind of
stuff you want to get to (if you have less ecclectic interests or a specific
search goal) possible.

Also, would it be hard to write a search engine tool that used the ring list
as a "target space" and searched those sites and their linked pages for what
you wanted? ie I want to find leader loss checks, but I have no idea they are
on Jed Sadler's page. I would love to be able to type in "Leader Loss" and
somewhere convenient and have it spitback results from the ring pages. This
would be in preference to the use of a full fledged search engine which might
or might not ever get anything from the ring in its 11456 hits on leader
loss.....

Is this possible or at all feasible?

From: Michael T Miserendino <MTMiserendino@l...>

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:22:00 -0500

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

I like one ring as well. Good point about making categories. Not sure about
making mulitple buttons per category as it would make the graphic larger. As a
developer I'm not always found of putting a bunch of web rings on a page and
especially not large ones. The page can start looking like a big bulletin
board when all you want is a nice little link to the ring. It would make sense
to just catagorize each site by GZG game, miniatures, etc in the list sites
section. This way if you want a specific type of site you can get it from the
list or just pick one randomly or in sequence. This

would also allow for ease of adding new categories over time and updates.

Mike

Michael Miserendino Senior Software Engineer Lincoln Re mtmiserendino@lnc.com

> owner-gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU at internet 10/13 12:45 PM >>>
Nine Rings for GZG Kings....

I agree with the suggestion that the FT ring be renamed the GZG ring and the
graphic be amended accordingly. It is more "inclusionary".

My thought for the GZG ring was just that if I'm looking to find and SG2
thingie, I have to hop through FT links to get there. I'm not saying the GZG
ring is overcrowded for what it is, but it is lacking if you want to just look
through stuff for a particular game.

But let's advance another idea for disussion and hope some of our Web Gurus
will speak to it:

Right now, our web ring provides single hop travel, five hop travel,
random travel, and html-formatted listing. These are good (though I've
hit a few sites where the one-hop travel just leads to itself).

Would it be feasible to put a selection on the graphic (make it a tad bigger)
that shows the list but only shows FT sites, another for SG sites, and another
for DS2 sites? I'm sure somewhere that when you register a site for the list,
you could just select what categories it would cover, and when the html list
was generated for the ring, if the user selected that option instead of
grabbing the full list, you could just grab the ones that had the SG2 tag.

Is this at all reasonable? It would make searching the ring for the kind of
stuff you want to get to (if you have less ecclectic interests or a specific
search goal) possible.

Also, would it be hard to write a search engine tool that used the ring list
as a "target space" and searched those sites and their linked pages for what
you wanted? ie I want to find leader loss checks, but I have no idea they are
on Jed Sadler's page. I would love to be able to type in "Leader Loss" and
somewhere convenient and have it spitback results from the ring pages. This
would be in preference to the use of a full fledged search engine which might
or might not ever get anything from the ring in its 11456 hits on leader
loss.....

Is this possible or at all feasible?

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:25:40 -0400

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

> My thought for the GZG ring was just that if I'm looking to
I'm not
> saying the GZG ring is overcrowded for what it is, but it

Actually what I want is to have the author's name (or pseudonym) listed as
part of the site listing. I think of (to pull a random example) "Brian's site"
and then have to remember than it's FT Ship Registry or Cynus Eclipsers or
whatever it is.

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:54:23 +0100

Subject: RE: One Ring To Bind Them

> in the list sites section. This way if you want a specific

I agree, if we used a bit more structure in the site blurb like we do for
headers on the list the filtering the sites should be easier. If we include
game system and author as fields that would be a start, something like:

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:44:56 +1300

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

Tim wrote
> ... if we used a bit more structure in the site blurb like we do for

If we just change it to:

REBOL []
                Site_Name: "Full Thrust Computer Core"
System: [FT2 FB] Description: { All the available computer accessories for the
ultimate space combat board game, in once place. Your one stop shop.}
                halt

then we can make it run using REBOL, and it's still readable to
humans. All the above is REBOL readable code. ^_^ Additional
descriptive terms can be easily added, and a REBOL script running on a client
(or server), can then use the 'System description to filter sites in or out of
the ring as the user requires. If no client or server processing is available,
it still can be used manually.

From: Jeremy Sadler <jsadler@e...>

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:47:26 +1000

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

> Would it be feasible to put a selection on the graphic (make it a tad

I don't think the webring provider caters for this, though it's been a while
for me since I've done a webring so I'm not sure. It would sort of be like
having a "Ring within a Ring".

> Also, would it be hard to write a search engine tool that used the

Phew! Don't want much do you?:) I guess it's probably feasable. There's
various free search engines that we could play with (Atomz is a good one, I
use it on the SG2 site) though keeping track of the different domains would be
a headache. Unless someone complied a Zerohoo or something like that.
(Don't laugh, I just had that idea and I _like_ it... I bags first go!
<grin>)

> Is this possible or at all feasible?

Possible yes. Feasible yes. Difficult - damn right. :)

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From: Jeremy Sadler <jsadler@e...>

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:34:02 +1000

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

> then we can make it run using REBOL, and it's still readable to

Well then do it man, and yesterday!:)

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From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:21:24 +1300

Subject: Re: One Ring To Bind Them

> Jeremy wrote:

        The client web page REBOL script is all ready done. ^_^

Any one got a server with CGI to run the web ring? WebRing won't do it.