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1. Digests coming with HTML and so on - can you clean that up?
2. Digests in the old days came with some instructions at the top on how to
post, how to unsub, how to reach the ListGod(TM), etc. Could we restore
appropriately updated ones to the top of the digest emails?
3. Not convinced letting FB traffic come here directly is wise. If a spammer
gets in?
4. As for FB generally, I'd rather suck hot plasma and have the Kra'vak
spawnlings feast on my still-living innards. FB's entire value
proposition is YOU. And they aren't paying you for the privilege. Social
networking in most of its current forms is corrupt and provably
so -
follow the money trail and what the company providing the service uses to
generate revenue....
(No, no... I am taking my meds... I'm calm... honest).
I'd rather retire stargrunt.ca and retire from the community than move to FB.
I much prefer email as it arrives and is sorted in an orderly way into my main
daily use tool for work and play (email). I can deal with it when I want and
only Google is stealing all of my secrets (hmmm.... that's not so good
either.... but they do no evil right? Just like doctors!).
On the other hand, I would welcome some new players and revived interest.
And some feedback from Jon at some point as to his plans for rules development
going forward. At some point, I was promised some....
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> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
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Of ALL the options open to us on the web, I am the biggest fan of the email
list. That would be my first and foremost choice.
> I can deal with it when I
After last weekend's incident at Sugarloaf Mountain here in Maryland,
do...not...get...me...started (again) on...doctors...
> On the other hand, I would welcome some new players and revived
Hehehe.
Mk
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> Of ALL the options open to us on the web, I am the biggest fan of the
This is where I stand.
> > I can deal with it when I
The differences between Google and other companies are
A.) Google isn't so capricious with the data they acquire and
B.) Unlike Facebook et al, Google is open and obvious about what they're
doing.
> > On the other hand, I would welcome some new players and revived
Fresh mea-er, players and feedback would be nice, yes.
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> 3. Not convinced letting FB traffic come here directly is wise. If a
Yahoo groups get spam too, which is a shame since otherwise a Yahoo group is
perfect for gaming lists. Then again, EVERYTHING gets spam these days (the
solution involves fire, and lots of it) so we should probably bite the bullet
and move to Yahoo.
Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force. 1993-1952.
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> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> 4. As for FB generally, I'd rather suck hot plasma and have the
FB isn't very good for discussion forums. There's no archive, there's no way
of searching for past comments, there's no threading. FB isn't a replacement
for an email list or a web forum.
What FB is good at doing is acting as a sign post for a business. It's a good
way for a company to tell its fans what it's doing in short, succinct posts.
The company I write RPGs for uses FB for this. For actual large amounts of
content and for discussions, the FB page points elsewhere (to the web site,
the Wordpress blog, the forums).
I'm on FB to keep up with friends, but I also have a (very, very small) number
of RPG fans who want to know what I've been up to, writing wise.
FB is so big that it really behooves you, if you're running a business, to
have some sort of presence on it. An example would be to set up GZG with a FB
page, and then Jon could post convention and sale information on it. There is
a growing number of people who go to FB first in order to find information on
a company.
For discussions, though, you need something else, like a mailing list or a web
forum. Where FB could help with that is by including the information necessary
to connect to the mailing list or, if it moves to one, a web forum.
The problem with mailing lists is that people are slowly sliding away from
email as the primary form of internet communication. I'm seeing a trend where
my friends and family are communicating with me through FB rather than by
email. It's too early to claim that email is dying, but it's no longer hard to
imagine that email in its present form is probably doomed.
Added to that is that mailing lists are no longer all that common. Most people
have never joined one. For most "regular folk", the general distrust of
"hackers on the internet" could trigger a "flight" response when they come
across some weird "subscription service". Think about how something with the
word "listserv" or "majordomo" might appear to someone who wasn't even born
before the world wide web.
I prefer mailing lists. I would probably participate less if we moved to
Yahoo, because I'd have to go off to Yahoo to check the list, rather than have
it come to me. (Yes, I know, you can have Yahoo send you email. I stopped that
for all Yahoo groups I was on when Yahoo would suddenly be unable to send me
email and would then suspend my account in the group in question until I
proved I was still interested.) The downside of the mailing list is that it's
probably never going to be much bigger than it is right now.