Nomenclature in force structures

23 posts ยท Dec 17 2001 to Dec 21 2001

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:02:23 -0000

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

Something that may be helpful-

This is from a glossary in "Blitzkrieg: Armour camouflage and markings,
1939-40":

English       Dutch	  French       German	   Italian
Polish Russian
division      divisie	    division	  division	divisione
dywizja    diviziya
brigade      brigade	  brigade      brigade	    brigata	 brygada
brigada
regiment   regiment	regiment     regiment	reggimento     pulk
polk
battalion    bataljon	 bataillon     abteilung   bataglione	batalion
batal'on
company  compagnie compagnie kompanie compagnia  kompanja     rot
squadron eskadron    escadron	schwadron  squadroni szwadron eskadron
platoon     peleton	 peleton	  zug	       plotoni
pluton vzvod troop sectie section zug truppa
dywizjon     vzvod

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:58:04 -0000

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:08:56 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

Just to further add to the general confusion, These are used by my
Mongol/Korean forces

From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:27:28 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

The Chinese PLA follows the Soviet model of the "small" armies, i.e. no
Corps level units.  The current army-level unit is called a group army,
consisting theoretically of both infantry and armour divisions for
combined-arms operations.  In reality, many are probably still infantry
with only minor armour and mechanized units.

Group Army Jituanjun Division Shi Brigade Lu Regiment Tuan Battalion Ying
Company Lian Platoon Pai Squad Ban

Say, Don, what do you use the Mongol and Korean forces for? Do they fit in the
GZG universe?

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Don M wrote:

> Just to further add to the general confusion, These are used by my

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 04:09:30 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> Group Army Jituanjun
Thanks for the great and useful information on the Chinese terms, as for the
Mongol/ Korean forces they are my brake away ESU state that I'm writing
up. I have studied Mongol and Step cultures for many years (Cultural Athtro
Major) so have always been found of it. The Koreans have a long history of
working with (when not fighting) the Mongols and other Turkic peoples like
themselves. The other reason for the selection of Koreans is habit, been
married to one for 20 years and know a bit about them also........) As for if
they fit in GZG universe, well that is the genius of this system just about
anything can. I'm posting the write up
to these and our up coming  FT& DSII   Khwarazm Campaign as quickly as I

From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>

Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:16:35 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

Wow, that's excellent.  I had no idea there were so many gamer-made
powers. I hope you could post more about the Khwarazm Campaign as you make up
more of it. I can't wait to see the vehicle stats for the Mongols.:)

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Don M wrote:

> to these and our up coming FT& DSII Khwarazm Campaign as quickly as

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:20:22 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:41:38 +0100

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:36:30 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> Karl ,

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:06:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> From: KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de (K.H.Ranitzsch)

> I thought that Korean was classed as an Altaic language, rather than

I have to side with Don on this one, it was also my understanding that Turkish
and Korean were very similar languages.

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:10:12 +0100

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> > Any Turtle Spaceships planned for FT ?

You could use the rules for a Cloaking Device, though you might want think
aboout something more colourful, perhaps with some morale effect.

Greetings

From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:12:33 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

So the campaign involves the NRE, the NAC, the Mongols, the Knights Templars,
and the IF? Wow, looks like it's something worth seeing:)

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Don M wrote:

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From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:20:46 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:23:42 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: Bif Smith <bif@b...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:54:20 -0000

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:36:34 -0500

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

From: Bif Smith <bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk>

> > So the campaign involves the NRE, the NAC, the Mongols, the

From: Christopher Pipinou <cpip@j...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:42:38 -0500

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

In my universe, yes.

A highly unlikely European Union intervention into the Northern Ireland
situation fragmented the E.U., but led instead to the formation of a League of
Catholic States, spearheaded by France and Italy. The resultant Crusades in
the outer planets of the Solar System led the LCS to fight with first China
and then British and Russian outposts there.

No relevance to the GZGverse, but there are Crusaders-In-Space out
there, including squadrons of the Swiss Guard in heavy fighters.

Best, Chris

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:54:20 -0000 "Bif Smith"

From: Donogh McCarthy <donoghmc@h...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:50:21 +0000

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

In my universe, yes.

A highly unlikely European Union intervention into the Northern Ireland
situation fragmented the E.U., but led instead to the formation of a League of
Catholic States, spearheaded by France and Italy. The resultant Crusades in
the outer planets of the Solar System led the LCS to fight with first China
and then British and Russian outposts there.

Interesting, if you were to say that no alien life had been discovered, it'd
be easy to extrapolate a resurgence in religion, plus you could construct a
very nasty Thirty Years War style conflict

From: Rick Rutherford <rickr@s...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:02:21 -0500

Subject: RE: Nomenclature in force structures

Are you looking for a good excuse to use the Battlefleet Gothic spaceships
(aka the Flying Cathedrals) in Full Thrust?:)

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:12:30 -0600

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

Rick,

Didn't need the excuse already have a few.....)

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:26:06 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> --- Bif Smith <bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Has anybody thought of having catholic church in

Well, there's those Templars.

And one of these days I'm going to do a writeup for the Hospitallars.

On the other hand, if the Vatican started running military forces in large
numbers (those Templars are fairly ecumenical, excepting Orthodox) I can think
of about 2 dozen powers who'd want to start shooting them out of the sky.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:49:31 +0100

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> > > Any Turtle Spaceships planned for FT ?

Or you could go cross-tech and use the Phalon vapour shroud...

From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>

Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:07:12 +0000

Subject: Re: Nomenclature in force structures

> On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:26:06AM -0800, John Atkinson wrote:

> Well, there's those Templars.

Well, you see, there are only six water-bearing planets in the galaxy...
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0087451