NI Colors, insignia, etc.

Hi,

Has anything similar been done for the New Isrealis? Any background (beyond
that in the 3 rule books) would be appreciated

TIA

Richard

> From: "Alan and Carmel Brain" <aebrain@austarmetro.com.au>

From: "Richard Kirke" <richardkirke@hotmail.com>
> Has anything similar been done for the New Isrealis? Any background

Noam is the custodian of New Israeli info, just posted his new URL this
morning.

The only thing he doesn't really go into detail on is that the Alarishi Empire
offers substantial rebates to New Israel on their contracts for AE mercs, both
ships and gropos. How often NI accepts those

***
The only thing he doesn't really go into detail on is that the Alarishi Empire
offers substantial rebates to New Israel on their contracts for AE mercs, both
ships and gropos. How often NI accepts those
substantially-below-cost contracts is up to them, of course.   :-)
***

Well, it seems that NI does fine on it's own in producing first rate equipment
and troops. However, there are rumors that certain AE 'adventures' in empire
extension, with limited apparent gain, show surprising value for manipulation
of balances of powers in the NI's favor.

Entirely idle speculation, we are certain...

Noam has just posted the URL of his new site - the New Israeli stuff is
there, including extra background, flags, fleet details and so on.

> Full Thrust: http://homepage.mac.com/nizenberg/NIFT.html

Cheers

Tony

> Richard Kirke wrote:

Tony,

Thanks, just had a look as I got to the e-mail, very nice webiste btw
Noam, is there any stuff more aimed at the SG2 NI player? I am building up
(i.e. I
have in Lead.resin) a company of NI assault infantry, I have painted them in
a kinda desert/green cammo (which I am pretty please with), but have now

reached (or will have when I have taken some sandpaper to them, thanks Jon)
the vehicles, I was thining of paintaing them exactly the same way, maybe
with a NI flag somewhere on it. (probably one of the side-panels, coz I
hate
flag-poles), What has anybody out there done?

Many thanks

Richard

> From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@kuju.com>

> Well, it seems that NI does fine on it's own in producing first rate

No argument there--that's why we pay to send our mercs to serve with
them. If you're going to train, you may as well do it with the best available.

> However, there are rumors that certain AE

Given that the AE has far and away the highest per capita number of spies,
mercenaries, political agents, discrete services, executive action
companies, information/ counterinformation/ disiniformation warfare
companies, privateers, etc, in human space, it may be a bit difficult to tell
who's up to what. Most of our citizens are "peaceful" as long as you "don't
bother them" but both of those terms are subject to some interpretation.

That's another reason we offer them to NI below cost--if they're there,
they're not wandering around on their own...

> Entirely idle speculation, we are certain...

> Richard Kirke wrote:

I've been planning to paint up some 15mm NI (well, SemFed, my undeveloped NI
offshoot).

Vehicles are going to be in a desert camouflage scheme of some sort,
possibly a blue / sand / grey scheme based on one the 8th Army used on
Matildas (see photos in http://www.military.cz/panzer/indsk/mat2sk.htm
and http://www.shadowsfolly.com/wwii/Britain/Matilda.htm)

Rather than putting the full blue and white NI flag on the side of vehicles,
which might be a bit of a 'please shoot me here' fire magnet, I'd thought of
using a low visibility black outline Star of David device. There would be a
small national flag on the rear of each vehicle somewhere.

Of course this is all wishful thinking, I haven't done any of it yet...

Hi

> You wrote:

> I've been planning to paint up some 15mm NI (well, SemFed, my

hmm sounds interesting...

> Vehicles are going to be in a desert camouflage scheme of some sort,

Which vehicles are you going to use? I am using the NAC MRRV (?) modular apc
for mine (25mm(.

> Rather than putting the full blue and white NI flag on the side of

Yeah ur probably right, might jut do the vs in a circle to show the outline,
of the flag.

> I'd thought of using a low visibility black outline Star of David

And then yeah one on the back probably

> Of course this is all wishful thinking, I haven't done any of it yet

Well yes!

Cheers

***
> I'd thought of using a low visibility black outline Star of David

And then yeah one on the back probably
***

I thought the Star of David was in the 'negative' on the NI flag anyway (darn
clever to my tastes), so if you drop the specific background on a rectangle,
you are left with six small 'balls' with notches cut out. Unless their in
strong contrast to your camo, they'd be quite innocuous, though
maybe TOO so, if you want them seen at all. ;->=

Come to think of it, given my jibe as to the hidden puppet-string
manipulations by the NI, the national logo may be TOO apropos...

> Richard Kirke wrote:

> Which vehicles are you going to use? I am using the NAC MRRV (?)
modular apc
> for mine (25mm(.

It's at this point I declare my vested interest; have a look at

http://www.brigademodels.co.uk

This gives me the advantage of being to make my own models as and when I
want them (so if I decide my forces need a new APC - hey presto I can
make one).

The NI will use the new Haifa II tank and an APC based on the same GEV skirt
piece which I haven't finished yet. Lighter vehicles are yet to appear. As for
infantry, I'll have to use another nationality's figures since GZG don't make
any Official NI ones (yet).

> Yeah ur probably right, might jut do the vs in a circle to show the

Air assets will have yellow stars on a dark blue circle - I did get as
far as drawing up a full decal sheet for the Ramon VTOL for Tom (Pope of that
ilk) to run off on his Alps printer, but (not unusually) never actually got as
far as sending it to him....

That's the national flag - Noam has also created a slightly different
military insignia

http://homepage.mac.com/nizenberg/NIMilit.htm

> devans@uneb.edu wrote:
Unless
> their in strong contrast to your camo, they'd be quite innocuous,

And that makes it real easy.

Just do the chevrons in black on your camo (assuming your camo does not use
black as a primary color) without a background.

Sort of like the Alies chevron "A" used in the gulf war, but smaller and in a
circular patern.

Here I am about to go radio-silent through monday to attend my brother's

wedding and this comes up! I'm glad so many people were able to help out

on the request.

My NI site is primarily FT (obvious) with some initial DS level stuff
contribted years ago by John Atkinson. I'd love to incorporate appropriate SG
level stuff as well from an interested player, with permission.

I should note that St.Jon has mentioned New Israel as a candidate for
"fleshing out" in FT3/FB3, so all my designs are likely in the next x
amount of time to go from "viable possibility" to "non-canon
alternative). I do, of course, hope to iinfluence the development of the

[official] NI...

Tony,

Ah another 15mm player, does anyone play 25? At all?

Why are 15s so popular?

Richard

> From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@kuju.com>
modular
> apc

> Ah another 15mm player, does anyone play 25? At all?

Because you can either buy 1 x 25mm fig, or 1 x 15mm squad for the same

> On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 07:36:42PM +0000, Richard Kirke wrote:

> Ah another 15mm player, does anyone play 25? At all?

For me: weapon ranges compared with table sizes.

25mm for fantasy - being in contact matters a lot, as does precise
relative positioning.

15mm for SF - precise positions don't usually matter, but if you're
going to be moving in and out of effective weapon envelopes you need a lot of
space.

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> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Richard Kirke wrote:

> Tony,

Yup. I play 25 for skirmish type games, where one fig = 1 man (or 20mm as an
alternative). I use 15 for mass combat games (e.g. napoleonics, ancients)

> Why are 15s so popular?

Cheaper & quicker to paint?

Cheers,

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:09:46 +0200 (CEST) Derk Groeneveld
> <derk@cistron.nl> writes:

Hmm, I think 6mm skirmish would be both the above but for skirmish I am a
confirmed 25mm (Humans) type. For Battle, 6mm is "God's own Scale" but for
skirmish 6mm seems, well... too small minded...

Aliens vary from 6mm to "28mm" (usually more like Irregular's 33mm "25mm"
figures which I **really like** but only have a few of...) so I can include
15mm figures for 'smaller' races.

Gracias,

Glenn said:

> Hmm, I think 6mm skirmish would be both the above but for skirmish I
but
> for skirmish 6mm seems, well... too small minded...

grin--I've been annoying TomB by pointing out that 6mm figs, using
1mu=1cm= 3 scale meters, is perfect for FMAS, and interspersing that

LOL! I love it.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:07:30 -0400 "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
writes:
> Glenn said:

> Richard Kirke wrote:

In my case it goes back to the days of Traveller / Striker, for which
the recommended scale was 15mm. I collected very large armies of TTG's
Laserburn figures (painted up like GW-wannabees - Space Marines in
bright blue armour (shudder)), scratchbuilt lots of vehicles and played some
impressively huge games around buildings kitbashed from plasticard and
assorted model kits.

When SG2 appeared I initially bought some 25s, but as soon as the 15s appeared
I decided to switch scales so I could use my existing scenery (don't think I'd
dare get the blue painted figures out again tho').

There's one odd picture on my club's sparse, still-in-development site :

http://www.maidstone-wargamers.org.uk/ShowGames/SciFi15/SciFi15-1.jpg