New Interesting Tech [SG2] or [OT]

> From CNN
They are working on a foam for deeper wounds.

This gives you some idea what your Medic in SG2 might be doing...

Tom.
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> On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Thomas Barclay wrote:

or just impregnate a layer in his clothes. or weave micropipes into his long
johns and shirt, and when he gets hit, pump in clotters, antiseptics,
painkillers, etc, so they spill out of the torn tubules where he was hit and
apply themselves to the wound. i see PA having serious automedical
capabilities ("WARNING! serious trauma to left leg detected! prepare for
separation! 5! 4! 3! 2! 1! <ka-CHUNG!> leg detatched and wound sealed!
this has been an AutoMedSys intervention: have a nice day!"). medics are
still there, but i think a lot of low-level stuff may be automated.

this is an interesting case of an inverse spinoff; we are often told of the
civiliian benefits of nasa and defence research spending, but here the
military are benefitting from technology developed for the zealous
health-conscious american market. viva la capitalisma!

Tom

Being tossed around today is using dimethyl sulfoxide (I think that's the
spelling) or DMSO mixed into drugs to cause the drug to take effect almost
instantaneously. mixed with DMSO a little artificial flavor dropped on the
skin is immediately tasted and smelled by the subject. Drugs for pain killing
and trauma application could be jetstreamed into the system. This is still
highly experimental, and I don't know the drawbacks of it, for all I know it's
a deadly carcinogen, but...? Other applications mix it a fine aerosol to make
contact with skin or mucous membrane with a noxious chemical like skunk scent
or the liquid fire extracted
from the hottest chilies. How's that for a non-lethal weapon (another
thread going around).

Thomas spake thusly upon matters weighty:

Of course it is being tested in an army hospital.... (I'll bet the patients
have less rights.....)

I agree with you about PA, but I think line infantry will still have to do
interventions. Especially given the variety of battlefield systems they will
be facing.

> On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Thomas Barclay wrote:
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> or just impregnate a layer in his clothes. or weave micropipes into his

One of the power-armour science fiction stories I've read (maybe the
Forever War???) had the suits with this kind of built-in medical
functions.
 They had razor-sharp iris valves at each joint in the arms and legs, so
if
you had a massive wound/suit penetration (especially in zero-atmosphere
or
hostile-atmosphere environments) SNIP and the joint was sealed.  They
also had limb regrowth, so it wasn't completely dehabilitating...

Adrian spake thusly upon matters weighty:

You'd think the shock would mess you up. Specially since they probably
couldn't medicate you quick enough so you didn't feel it, and just the loss of
feeling in the limb would be jarring. I'm thinking in any case you are a
casualty (of course, if they can hook right into your nerve system then all
bets are off).

> >or just impregnate a layer in his clothes. or weave micropipes into
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DMSO is not toxic- at least not im moderate quantities.  It has reputed
qualities for soothing sore muscles (apparently it's solvent effect is
supposed to help the blood flow break down lactic acid build up in the
muscles or somthing - Or something like that. I don't remember my Dad's
description.)

Anyway - remember the old Taster/Non-Taster test in biology class.  DMSO
definately has an unpleasant taste and diffuses itself into the bloodstream
almost instantly. So it needs some real flavoring to cover it up (if that's
even possible).

I can merely walk into a room where my Dad used DMSO 2 hours earlier and I
can taste it within 10 _seconds_...no joke, and not pleasant (very
acrid) I have no doubts about its utility to aid in chemical absorbtion into
the body.

Jared Noble

ScottSaylo@aol.com on 11/06/98 12:01:16 PM

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Subject:  Re: New Interesting Tech [SG2] or [OT]

Being tossed around today is using dimethyl sulfoxide (I think that's the
spelling) or DMSO mixed into drugs to cause the drug to take effect almost
instantaneously. mixed with DMSO a little artificial flavor dropped on the
skin is immediately tasted and smelled by the subject. Drugs for pain killing
and trauma application could be jetstreamed into the system. This is still
highly experimental, and I don't know the drawbacks of it, for all I know it's
a deadly carcinogen, but...? Other applications mix it a fine aerosol to make
contact with skin or mucous membrane with a noxious chemical like skunk scent
or the liquid fire extracted
from the hottest chilies. How's that for a non-lethal weapon (another
thread going around).

I hate to admit to knowing this, but it sounds suspiciously like the
Micronauts (especially a spin-off 'new journeys' series of comic books
-
from the early 80's) - I was in Junior High School at the time - at
least that's the excuse I'm using.

Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@idirect.com> on 11/06/98 12:49:42 PM

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To:   FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
cc:    (bcc: Jared E Noble/AAI/ARCO)
Subject:  Re: New Interesting Tech [SG2] or [OT]

> or just impregnate a layer in his clothes. or weave micropipes into his

One of the power-armour science fiction stories I've read (maybe the
Forever War???) had the suits with this kind of built-in medical
functions.
 They had razor-sharp iris valves at each joint in the arms and legs, so
if
you had a massive wound/suit penetration (especially in zero-atmosphere
or
hostile-atmosphere environments) SNIP and the joint was sealed.  They
also had limb regrowth, so it wasn't completely dehabilitating...

> Adrian spake thusly upon matters weighty:

This is from vague memory of reading The Forever War a long while back, but I
seem to remember something about the casualty being pumped full of
"No-Shock(TM) and Happy Juice" (or some similar phrase) by the suit's
Med system at the time the leg is snipped. And yes, IIRC the trooper in
question is definitely out of combat from then on (as (i) he's off with the
fairies due to the medication and (ii) he can't stand up one one leg even in a
powersuit....).

Jon (GZG)

> One of the power-armour science fiction stories I've read (maybe the