New Battlefleet Gothic? (was Re: Full Tilt?) (very much off topic)

> Simon wrote:

> Small point, even though you may be able to use your old models in

Bullshit. The tank and AFV models are the same size as before, and the old
2*2cm infantry bases actually work better in close assaults and firefights
than the new 4*1cm bases. OTOH, they're a bit more vulnerable to artillery.
IIRC the scales are the same as in Heresy, which definitely used the old
infantry bases <g>

> Next point, I don't think that you are able to use the old miniatures

If they tell you that, kindly show them (or ask them to look for themselves)
the following references:

E40K Army book, p.6, "The Miniatures Range", 2nd paragraph: "... Veteran
gamers in particular will need to bear this in mind,
_as_almost_everything_
_they_already_have_in_their_army_should,_in_some_way,_be_usable_with_the
_Epi
c_ _40,000_rules_ ..." (emphasis mine)
E40K Battles book, p.17 and 33; the Eldar Dreadnoughts in the photos are
the old _metal_ ones - ie, the ones that were replaced by the plastic
ones in the "Stompers" box! On p. 34 is a plastic Eldar Dreadnought. E40K
Battles book, p.103, "Infantry basing, Old vs New" ("...Veteran Epic gamers
are likely to have infantry on the old bases but there is no need to rebase
them.") E40K Battles book, p.109, "Classifying War Engine Weapons" WD212,
article "Green is Mean!"; all the Ork armies (owned by GW staff
-
you can't get much more official than that IMO) include old vehicles
and/or
conversions (...only one doesn't have any old stuff, since the owner just
started building it...)
WD213, p.50-51: Kendal Kinrade's Dark Angle W40K army, including old
assault marine models (judging from the look of them, they are at least 8
years old... a long time for GW, at least)

So, for at least two GW armies (orks and Space Marines), the WD (which is the
most official publication GW makes) has recently published photos of armies
using old models. If the shop staff argues against that evidence, they argue
against GWUK too.

There are no official GW shops in Stockholm (yet), but there is at least one
shop selling GW stuff only (and their tournaments do get sponsored by GW); the
staff there have no problems with old models. I'm not going to propose that I
be allowed to use my Renegade Legion tanks (even though many
of them are converted using left-over GW turrets or weapons) in their
tournaments, but they have no problem with my old forces (yes, I've checked
with them).

It seems to me that the GW game designers and WD people are a lot more
sensible than the marketting staff... and hopefully the above references
indicate a turn for the better rather than a quickly suppressed rebellion
:-/