Okay, time to spice up the list a bit. My 12 year old (whose movie viewing I
edit) is in Canada for 5 weeks and my wife (who turns pale at the sight of
cinematic special effects, aka "blood") will be gone for two weeks. So during
that time I'll be able to watch movies that
I've always wanted to watch but have too much violence and/or bare
skin. These movies are of course..what? I'm looking for a) movies that it's
reasonably likely my local video shop may have; and b) films
which are either good SF and/or useful background for wargamers.
For example: Saving Pvt Ryan; Aliens; Predator.
Suggestions?
Well, since you ask about movies...
Cross of Iron (WW2, Crimea) Good scenario ideas for SG (just to keep this on
topic).
Sink the Bismarck!
Stalingrad (I think that's the name of that German movie from a few years ago)
Any of the Sharpe's videos (though these are not that easy to find as rentals)
Aliens (yes, obvious)
Outland (with Sean Connery as a US Marshal in space)
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
Shout at the Devil (a little hoky, but I enjoyed it)
55 Days in Peking (are you finding a pattern here?)
I can't think of a really good space combat flick, though (I mean FT related,
not FMAS or SG).
Rob
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Tora Tora Tora is at just about the documentary level of historical accuracy.
Event Horizon is pretty good SF and a good horror flick.
All the Anime you can get your hands on.
> At 1:39 AM +0000 7/13/01, aebrain@austarmetro.com.au wrote:
films
> which are either good SF and/or useful background for wargamers.
> For example: Saving Pvt Ryan; Aliens; Predator.
Fifth Element, Outland, Starship Troopers...
Pitch Black, Starship Troopers, Aliens, Battlefield Earth (though some say
this is competition for Plan Nine) for On Topic
The Cell for Off Topic (powerful imagery)
Michael Brown
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> "Robert W. Hofrichter" wrote:
> I can't think of a really good space combat flick, though (I mean FT
The only good space combat flick that comes to mind is Star Trek II: The Wrath
I too would shoot for some anime
Venus Wars Gaul Force Armitage III Bubblegum Crisis (SG2 or FMASk) Robotech
Yea I know, but there were some interesting
ideas for DS2/SG2. I would love to do a SG2
or DS2 game against the Invid. Ghost in the Shell (for Fmask)
Non-Anime Sci-Fi
Red Planet (1999? 2000?) interesting robot probe ideas for SG2. Terminator
Aliens (Duh. I know its been listed, but worth seeing again).
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> >For example: Saving Pvt Ryan; Aliens; Predator.
That's funny, I watched the Fifth Element yesterday. Looking at my collection,
yep, I include Aliens and the two Predators, as well as Starship Troopers (its
good if you want to see people ripped apart by bugs... yum yum). You can't
forget Terminator 2 (especially the futuristic battle scenes). Enemy Mine and
the Last Starfighter are also good. Glory is a
good Civil War movie. If you want low-tech combat, check out the
Gladiator and the 13th Warrior.
> Pitch Black, Starship Troopers, Aliens, Battlefield Earth (though some
Well, if you have read the book, stay away from Battlefield Earth. I feel that
it is very lousy as a movie version of a book (which was pretty
good -
I own it).
> Bob DeAngelis wrote:
> <delurk!!>
Except for the way people DO NOT explode in a vacuum, it is not bad. What
really happens is that you get all puffy and eventually expire from lack of
oxygen. Apparently, trained monkeys can survive up to a minute of hard vacuum
with no ill effects (after saturating the body by breathing pure oxygen. The
human body
In a message dated 7/12/01 7:30:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
> laserlight@quixnet.net writes:
> For example: Saving Pvt Ryan; Aliens; Predator.
Don't forget some great old tv shows too: Battlestar Galactica, Above and
Beyond
Well I'm thinking, oh boy, now for the fur to fly, but I hope we'll restrict
ourselves to recommendations, rather than critiques.
***
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
***
Conventional wisdom is that Zulu is far superior; I know I find it a lot more
enjoyable, even with my strong liberal bias that the indigents SHOULD
win. ;->= Hope you don't find that a spoiler.
However, as Zulu Dawn precedes it temporally, see it first, and enjoy the
quality, ripping good yarn Zulu thereafter.
Just remember, for gaming inspiration, Evil Empire already did an 'Ork's
Drift'. ;->= More than enough to go around, though. And plenty of actual
games and web sites of the original to keep one going.
Mention of Sink The Bismark gets me trotting out my list of favorites, as it's
one of the top three, inspite of heavy revisionism, and the same charge has
been laid at Tora, Tora, Tora. They STILL live there. Not much blood, though
plenty of gaming grist.
I'd risk a remake of Sink The Bismark that made a stab at better history. I
can hear the groans now.
There's a brit flick of an WWII assault on a German naval base with an
explosive laden DD, carrying commandos. Glory at Sea with Trevor Howard. I
only mention it because I found a copy in a cut-out bin at a rental
place, and it may be available elsewhere.
There's a movie of The Cruel Sea and I've never seen it?!?!?
If you can stand heavy propaganda overtones, Immortal Battalion and Action in
the North Atlantic, but how can you go wrong with David Niven or
Humphrey Bogart.;->=
I've been watching a lot of mediocre to really bad sci-fi flicks, I
won't mention names for fear of violating rule number one above, but I'd sure
like to hear something good for warfare even moderately recent.
I think, inspite of obvious pandering to children, Last Starfighter stands up
well. Enemy Mine does Robinson Crusoe in the main, and well IMNSHO, but the
opening scenes are great battle footage. Soldier has moments.
If you've a Mech tendency, there's Robot Wars, RobotJox, and Robo Warriors.
For science fiction of the quirky, strange, yet compelling variety, try
Quintet.
Rumored to be great, but I've yet to view are a couple of Russian films by
Andrei Tarkovsky, Solaris and Stalker.
Much anime', as mentioned, including the just released Final Fantasy, though
be ready for a bit of a let down at the end(heavy YMMV). I just wish Legend of
Galactic Heroes was widely available; recent scuttlebutt indicates there's
some, though small, possibilities flowering in the US. I gather France has
just recently gotten some in general release.
Hmmm... it seems others have mention several of the above while I've been
composing. I'll leave off here; too many obvious left unsaid, including the
insulting-to-the-world Independence Day which still has some redeeming
qualities. ;->=
Of a few years ago, a film called Wing Commander is a great Full Thrust movie.
Pitch Black, very bloody great Stargrunt type film. Lots of Animae, one comes
to mind is called Big Wars (giant land ship battles on Mars)
Don M
> Okay, time to spice up the list a bit. My 12 year old (whose movie
When Trumpets Fade is good. Produced by HBO, details the battles in the
Huertgen Forest during WWII, which was probably the biggest waste of Allied
men and material in Europe. Also Stalingrad (the original, but the remake is
OK
too).
Mark
> Laserlight wrote:
> (may be forged)) by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with
<6B3C0EEAB4FED3119F5F009027DC5E9E01D73290@spacemsg3.jhuapl.edu>
> <016101c10608$6453c0c0$85b70aca@avis> <3B4C3746.DAE5356B@kuju.com>
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> There's a movie of The Cruel Sea and I've never seen it?!?!?
http://www.eonline.com/Facts/Movies/0%2C60%2C4037%2C00.html
http://us.imdb.com/Title?Cruel+Sea,+The+(1953)
http://mrshowbiz.go.com/movies/reviews/TheCruelSea_1953/review.html
> "Robert W. Hofrichter" wrote:
The Wrath
> of Khan.
Watch Wing Commander just for the hell of it, but lay in some clean underwear
stocks first 'cos you'll be laughing so much....
There is also a minor TV-movie that regularly does the rounds on the UK
SciFi Channel (and probably on the US one as well) called Star Command;
IIRC it was a pilot for a never-to-be series. Pretty crap in most ways,
but
it actually has a few "believable" space travel/combat in it - such as
ships having to come out of Hyper well out from the planets and taking
WEEKS to get to them in normal-space drive. Oh, and it has Eva Habermann
(original Zev from Lexx) in a bath scene.... <GRIN>
On the subject of Lexx, it's all out on Video and DVD (at least over here)
- VERY odd, you'll either love it or hate it....
I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the most stunning SF movie in
recent years (IMHO, YMMV!) - Dark City. I won't say anything about this,
because it'll spoil it - just get it out and watch it!!
Oh, and another silly but fun one that actually gets SOME of it's science
right - Space Truckers; Dennis Hopper playing a good-guy role for once,
Charles Dance as the baddie and the lovely Debbie Mazar not wearing much....
and spacecraft that actually use retroes to slow down!!
Oh, and for cheesy old B&W war films, one of my all-time personal
favourites has to be Ice Cold in Alex. Sir John Mills et al being jolly heroic
trying to get away from the Germans in an old Austin K2 ambulance in the
Western Desert. No big battles, but it's a GREAT film.
Have fun...
> Bob DeAngelis wrote:
What
> really happens is that you get all puffy and eventually expire from
"Open the pod bay doors, Hal......Hal, open the pod bay doors!" "I'm sorry
Dave, I can't do that.... you've been out drinking and forgotten your key
again, haven' t you...?"
;-)
> On 13 Jul 2001, at 9:56, Ground Zero Games wrote:
And when will there be Zev/Xev minis in the CM range? I'm surprised
that there aren't already...
In a message dated 7/13/01 4:11:48 AM Central Daylight Time, jon@gzg.com
writes:
> Sir John Mills et al being jolly heroic trying to get away from the
In that vein "Sahara" with Bogart. I would also recommend some Japanese films.
"Escape from Attu", "Seven Samurai" and "Yojimbo".
Let's narrow the search a bit. Space combat movies? Categories: a) grunts in
space
b) ship -to -ship
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:07:17 EDT Popeyesays@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 7/13/01 4:11:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
[Snip pithy description of "Ice Cold in Alex"]
> In that vein, "Sahara" with Bogart. I would also recommend some
Heck, why not just have a Kurosawa (sp?) season?! You can't (or shouldn't) see
Yojimbo without Sanjuro (which came first, IIRC); Throne
of Blood is good stuff; and Kagemusha has the best one-sided
battle/slaughter this side of the WW2 Wermacht-vs-Polish (horse)
cavalry "duels".
Some classic British war films are well worth a look. "Battle of the River
Plate" is an entertaining period piece, and a good companion to "Sink the
Bismarck!"; It also neatly fits into Laserlight's category
(c). <g>
Phil, now feeling like going and checking my video collection. Settling down
to watch a good film would be fun this weekend. Wish I had a copy of
"Dambusters"...
----
"We gotta get out into Space / If it's the last thing we ever do!"
-- Return to the Forbidden Planet
Chris, Find a shop that has foreign films and rent "Winter War" it's the top
of my list.
Go by yourself to the theaters today and go see "Final Fantasy:SPirits" for
good power armor combat.
For Anime, If you can watch the Gundam series do it, especially "Gundam 080
War in the Pocket" and "Gundam 083".
And definately check out "Ghost in the Shell", top notch.
Los
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> I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the most stunning SF movie
I'll throw out two French sci-fi movies that are worth watching (and
have similiar "feels" as Dark City).
The City of Lost Children and The Delicatessen (sp?) (might be just The Deli).
Both have heavy comedic sides to them (The Deli moreso).
> At 8:26 PM -0400 7/12/01, Laserlight wrote:
If you can find it. When the Bugle Fades ( I think...). Its about the battle
of the Hurtgen Forest. Somewhat graphic but very good.
Das Boot is also up there with Pvt Ryan in quality.
Leon (the Professional) by Luc Besson.
> Suggestions?
How about
Thin Red Line Hunt for Red October Crimson Tide Platoon
I always feel that Submarine combat would be the closest thing to "real" space
combat.
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i don't know exactly where it fits in, but I love:
Breaker Morant (1980), about three Australian lieutenants on trial for
shooting Boer prisoners under orders. Obviously occurs during the Boer War.
It makes a great double feature with:
Gallipoli (1981), about Australian youths gone off to fight in the Gallipoli
campaign in World War I.
And I'm not even Australian :-)
> Gallipoli (1981), about Australian youths gone off to
And when you've watched Gallipoli try "The Lighthorsemen", to see what some of
them did next, although you can't really match that on to SG or FT. Horses in
spacesuits?
> And I'm not even Australian :-)
I married one -does that count? ;-)
> __________________________________________________
Hi Chris,
If I had to recommend one modern war film, it would be "The Beast" (it's also
sometimes called "The Beast of War"), made in 1988. It's an EXCELLENT film
about a Soviet tank crew that gets separated from its unit in Afghanistan and
tries to make it back behind friendly lines. It was filmed in the Negev desert
in Israel, and it stars George Dzundza and Jason Patric. It was also Stephen
Baldwin's film debut.
> At 11:21 AM -0400 7/13/01, Ryan M Gill wrote:
Sorry that's 'When Trumpets Fade'.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0135706
The 08th Mobile Suit Team series should be available on DVD by now (and will
be on Toonami in the near future). It covers the adventures and mishaps of a
squad of mobile suits fighting in the jungle. No
Newtypes, only one experimental unit - just a straight war story
(with romance).
War in the Pocket (Gundam 80) is a great war movie and a heckuva tragedy.
> At 8:57 AM -0400 7/13/01, clourenco wrote:
for
> good power armor combat.
films
> which are either good SF and/or useful background for wargamers.
> At 6:13 PM +0100 7/13/01, Christopher Downes-Ward wrote:
Boy, finding ANZACs would be really nice.
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> At 12:39 AM 7/14/01 +0100, Rob Paul wrote:
Unfortunately it's a bit of a short battle, but what's so lovely about the
scene in Wings of Honneamise is that, unlike most anime series, it's not a
"hold them off until the giant robot pilot(s) can get it's act together and
save us!" type of thing. It's just grunts & pilots, having it out because
they're following orders... lots of confusion, some shifting viewpoints,
and a great soundtrack by Ryuichi Sakamoto. (Well, he was one of four
composers for the soundtrack anyway; I'm not sure off the top of my head
what other tracks he did than "Senso".)
Wings is, IMO, one of the best movies out there. ^_^ Though I am a bit
of
a sucker for "get-'em-into-space" type movies.... <grin>
> Laserlight wrote:
> Let's narrow the search a bit. Space combat movies?
> a) grunts in space
Aliens (I really disliked the aliens/Loved the APC and grunts.)
Solger
> b) ship -to -ship
Startrek Wrath of Khan
Starblazers (anime -- most episodes have space battles)
Babylon 5.
> c) wet navy battles that could transpose to space
> mreindl@pacbell.net wrote:
> Also Stalingrad (the original, but the remake is OK
I know there are a couple of Stalingrad movies out there, so I don't which you
are speaking of, so forgive me if I repeat what you have said: There is a
german made movie called Stalingrad, and it's quite good. I don't know if you
want to avoid Subtitles or not, but it's worth it.
There is also a good Australian film called 'The Light Horsemen', (I think
that's the name).
'The Bridge at Remagen' is very hollywood, but it's filled with all sorts of
good visuals that can be stripped for good scenario ideas.
While I am at it, I'm going to have to recommend 'Kelly's Heroes', While
horribly inaccurate, it's quite a fun movie, and some of the battle scenes are
nice.
On the Sci-fi front, you could check out 'Soldier'. If you can stomach
the bad parts (of which there are many), you could pick up 'Dune'. HBO also
has a version of this, but I have to see it myself. While essentially a kids
show, the computer generated Starship Troopers 'Roughneck Chronicles' can be
very adult at times, and is at least good visually.
-Brent Wolke
I have been reading the movies sugestions without any comments so far, but I
will add my own <G> anyway.
People have said outlands, and I agree. The only thing that spoiled this
movie for me was the fact I had been reading/watching different science
books/programs at the time, and knew that IO (where it`s set) is a
sulpherus volcanic moon, traped within a magnetic band that means IO is
permanetly bathed in high radiation. Why it wasn`t set on either europa or
titan, which I consider better places, is beyond me.
As for the sci-fi films, I would say all of them that involve space
ships or space battles. The only exception would be soilder, which is probably
the worst film I`ve ever seen (and that is saying something).
For the anime, any gundam is excellent, especially any of the OAV productions.
I would also suggest nadesco, LoGH, sol bianca, gunbuster (highly amusing) and
others with spaceships blowing the crap out of each other <G>. One of my
personal favorites is bubblegum crisis, in my opinion, the best cyberpunk
ever. Also, look up tenchi muyio (sorry for the spelling), for some excellent
spaceship designs (grown from trees!).
As you may have guessed, my tastes are a bit limited <G>.
In message <002701c10c9f$456ba360$17b4893e@inty>
> "Bif Smith" <bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have been reading the movies sugestions without any comments so far,
Hmm.. can't remember when it was made, it _may_ have been pre Voyager
(and I do mean the space-probes :-).
Of course they _could_ do a 'special edition' and 'dub' the location -
make it Ganymede or Callisto.
OTOH, a film set on a mine on Io _as_we_now_know_it_to_be_, would, at
least, have a _really_ dramatic landscape :-)
> As for the sci-fi films, I would say all of them that involve space
Hmm.. I wonder if we could convince St.Jon to do another alien race with ships
based on these. There is also a crystalline spacecraft that I
rather like, GZG already do a model if this, its half of PAND-40
.
.
.
.
...but she's in one of her _other_ forms :-)
> As you may have guessed, my tastes are a bit limited <G>.
While mine can be just weird :-)
> At 08:57 PM 7/14/01 +0100, you wrote:
And why not? ^_^
> People have said outland [snip]
Charles Taylor had the same idea I did (was Outland pre-Voyager?)...
Outland was released in 1981, the Voyagers passed by in, what, '79 and '80? So
given writing time & production, I'm willing to bet that our knowledge of the
system just advanced past what was known when the story
was written. It doesn't change the fact that's it's a great yarn. ^_^
> As for the sci-fi films, I would say all of them that involve space
I think people are looking for titles here. ^_- And not Star Wars....
> For the anime, any gundam is excellent, especially any of the OAV
Um... okay. (I've been less than impressed with most of it, though if you're
only thinking of the battle sequences and don't mind the
super-duper
robts issue they are quite good. This is, of course, my opinion. ^_^ )
> I would also suggest nadesco, LoGH, sol bianca, gunbuster
Amusing... okay, yes. ^_^; LoGH is *great*, but unfortunately difficult
to apply to FT battles because of the scale. (Though I know there have been
some attempts made to model the mass battles... what are the smaller ones,
only 10,000 ships to a side? ^_- )
> and others with spaceships blowing the crap out of each
Trees and crystals, yes, much fun, but sparse on the space battles. (Unless
you train your starship in evasive maneuvers by getting
it drunk.... ^_- ) It is a fun show, though, and my (older) sister
named
her car -- now my car -- after the starship/cabbit in question....
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.
> "Duck Soup" - I'm raising 6mm HOTT forces for Freedonia and Sylvania
> Rob Paul
If you like HOTT could I suggest you try "Fantasy Rules" from CHIPCO, it's a
similar system but more developed. Just my opinion
Ive always liked "The Eagle has landed","The Wild Geese" and "Uncommon
> Bif Smith wrote:
> As for the sci-fi films, I would say all of them that involve space
Two things:
1st: David Webb Peoples wrote Soldier. He was trying to blend his two favorite
genre's: The Western and Sci-fi. Peoples wrote the script for both Blade
Runner, and Unforgiven (among many others). I think to that end, the story
makes for a very solid case of a 'Western in Space'. Many people I have spoken
with have said they didn't like Soldier, but once they understood what the
movie was supposed to be about changed their minds. Additionally, Peoples has
said that he often envisioned the world of Soldier to be the future of Blade
Runner. The production manager for Soldier was sold on that idea and even
scrap built a Blade Runner cop car that is part of the junk pile. If you are
watching for it, it's not hard to miss.
2nd: I don't know why I'am thinking about this, but nobody has mentioned
'Enemy
Mine' on the Sci-fi movie list. Just thought I would throw it out there.
-Brent Wolke
Neil schrieb:
> > "Duck Soup" - I'm raising 6mm HOTT forces for Freedonia
A new version of 'Hordes of the Things' (HOTT) is currently in the advanced
playtest stage, and it certainly is much better written than the original
version. Check it out on Richard Bodley Scott's website:
http://www.byzant.demon.co.uk/HOTT%20Revision%20Web.htm
Greetings
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:06:10 +0200, "Bob DeAngelis" <bobdea@terra.es>
wrote:
> well said that man!!!!
Ummm... except for the humans blowing up in a vacuum part. That cracked me up.
(No, humans would NOT blow up in a vacuum. Skin can handle going from 15
pounds per square inch to zero. You would see blood vessels bursting in the
eyes, probably in the lungs, etc. but not people blowing up like a balloon.)
Actually, the most undersold movie he made was probably Zardoz.
An under rated movie called "The Beast" has just been released on DVD. It's
about the crew of a Soviet T-62 in Afghanistan. I've only seen it once,
but really enjoyed it at the time. I'd put it into the list of movies.
For the original poster, if you haven't seen it, rent "From The Earth To The
Moon". It's 12 1-hour episodes, but well worth it!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:15:22 -0700, Michael Brown
<mwbrown@veriomail.com> wrote:
> Pitch Black
I really liked this! Major coincidences that make it hard to "willfully
suspend your disbelief", but it has one thing this type of genre rarely has:
character development! I have it on DVD (got it as a gift) and enjoyed it.
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:44:44 +0100 (BST), Phillip Atcliffe
> <Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk> wrote:
> Heck, why not just have a Kurosawa (sp?) season?! You can't (or
Nope. Sanjuro came out a year later. I have both on DVD. Yojimbo is more
"accessible". I had a movie night with both, back to back. (I also have a
Yojimbo 12" action figure!) I also have "A Fistful of Dollars", which is the
"Yojimbo" remake.
I would also add "Ran". Almost every scene is filmed as a medium or long shot
(few, if any, close ups). The colours and screen composition is amazing. The
battle scenes are also quite good.
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:54:31 -0400, Rick Rutherford <Rick@esr.com>
wrote:
> If I had to recommend one modern war film, it would be "The Beast"
(it's
> also sometimes called "The Beast of War"), made in 1988.
Ah! Rick beat me to it!
I will also add a vote for "The Wings of Honneamise", the only anime I own.
I understand that "Titan AE" isn't a bad animated film, from a starship combat
point of view. It's readily available for rent, but I haven't seen it.
In a message dated 7/25/01 9:10:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
awg@sympatico.ca writes:
> "Now, see, if you combine different colours of light,
Mixing light is "additive" color mixing - primary colors are red, blue
and GREEN
Mixing pigments is "subtractive" color mixing - primary colors are red,
blue and YELLOW.
> At 10:25 25/07/01 -0400, you wrote:
wrote:
> >If I had to recommend one modern war film, it would be "The Beast"
(it's
> >also sometimes called "The Beast of War"), made in 1988.
It's ok to watch, it's very 'Pulp SciFi' in it's look and of course the
animation is characteristic of Don Bluth.
Titan is a fun flick. It's not great cinema, and it spends a lot of time on
gratuitous effects sequences. But it's a nice ride and very entertaining.
For underrated films, I like "The Gods Muist Be Crazy - II". An American
business woman, a bush pilot, a few soldiers, and several animals partake in a
slapstick romp across the African bush.
> ------------ Original Message -----------
wrote:
> >If I had to recommend one modern war film, it would be "The Beast"
(it's
> >also sometimes called "The Beast of War"), made in 1988.
> >Pitch Black
I liked Pitch Black aswell. Did anyone notice the realistic event of everyone
stranded on an unknown planet making sure the first thing they did was arm
themselves!
How many stranded on planet movies have people got to watch before they get
the notion to pick up a big stick.:)
> Ah! Rick beat me to it!
Some time ago. That's the problem with this kind of topic; I've seen several
repeats when folks probably haven't read all the previous
posts...
***
For underrated films, I like "The Gods Muist Be Crazy - II". An American
business woman, a bush pilot, a few soldiers, and several animals partake in a
slapstick romp across the African bush.
***
and get way off the requested AND list topics...
Can we call this once and for all? Far as I know, the wif and kids are back
already. ;->=
From: <devans@uneb.edu>
> and get way off the requested AND list topics...
Gods Must Be Crazy I & II are great movies but way off topic
> Can we call this once and for all? Far as I know, the wife and kids
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:29:18 EDT Popeyesays@aol.com writes:
<snip>
> In a message dated 7/25/01 9:10:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
As every good, modern Cartographer knows.
Hmm, wonder what Kra'vak primary colors are?
Maybe Red (blood), White (bone) and???
Gracias,
> At 06:44 26/07/01 -0500, you wrote:
Gee. Here I was about to suggest 'Iron Giant':)
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Allan Goodall wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:54:31 -0400, Rick Rutherford <Rick@esr.com>
wrote:
> >If I had to recommend one modern war film, it would be "The Beast"
(it's
> >also sometimes called "The Beast of War"), made in 1988.
I saw this in the theatre - it's one of those movies you watch for the
visuals, not the plot or characters... Nice CG animations of the ships &
stations, and some entertaining scenes - one zero-G combat scene sticks
in my memory.
Zero-Gravity combat rules for FMa or SG2 - must think. Import vector
movement from FT? In full 3-d? Cool...
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:29:18 EDT, Popeyesays@aol.com wrote:
> "Now, see, if you combine different colours of light,
*sigh* You were never a child, were you sir?
Hiya,
If you've ever played the "Space Ace" or "Dragon's Lair" video games,
Titan AE will look REALLY familiar -- they were both animated by Don
Bluth. Cool graphics, but there's not much of a plot.
See you all at GenCon!
-- Rick
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> I'm looking for a) movies
Wargaming good for FT:
Das Boot(Director's cut on DVD if you can, in German with subtitles is
best) -
this is definitely rated Mature Audiences Only. followed by... The Cruel Sea
(in glorious B&W)
Tora!Tora!Tora! is a great movie for seeing the effects of strategic surprise,
and vastly better than the recent Pearl Harbor crap.
Midway - adequate, but historically good.
apart from that, some of the better documentaries.