More military questions!

5 posts ยท Dec 7 2001 to Dec 7 2001

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:12:54 -0500

Subject: More military questions!

1) Do Corpsmen/Medics travel armed usually? Does this vary based on
theatre? Does it vary by nationality? Or by military institution
(Navy/Army/Marines)?

2) When I asked if all Marines were still Riflemen, I wasn't alluding
exclusively to the marksmanship aspect. What I had in mind was to know
if all Marines took the full infantry basic training - learning weapons
employment, small unit tactics, etc. Or do the Aviators and others get some
abbreviated course?

3) In the US forces, where the Queen is not head of state, what does it mean
to hold a commission? (It isn't from the Queen) Similarly, what does it mean
to hold a warrant? Who issues them?

4) Do other nations have a distinction between rank and appointment the same
way Canadians do? We have Warrant Officers, Master Warrant Officers and Chief
Warrant Officers. We also have Regimental and Company
Sergeant-Majors, Base Warrant Officers, and a Canadian Forces Chief
Warrant Officer (appointments). It seems to me you can call these people by
either their actual rank ("Chief Warrant Peplinksi") or by their title ("RSM
Peplinksi"). Do other nations have this distinction?

5) Are the Royal Marines in the UK considered a branch of the Army or Navy or
a separate service entirely? Do they fall under their own Command or that of
the Army or Navy? Do they have their own medics and doctors?

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:32:05 EST

Subject: Re: More military questions!

Maybe you could enlist <grin>?

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:12:54 -0500 "Tomb" <tomb@dreammechanics.com>
writes:
> 1) Do Corpsmen/Medics travel armed usually? Does this vary based on

Well, I remember my old Boy scout leader talking to the other adults one night
about that. He was WW2 and had the pleasure of being recycled into combat in
the Korean War as a Navy Corpsman with the Marines. He said initially he wore
the red cross symbols and was unarmed. The first time he responded to a cry of
"Corpsman" and a quick thinking and straight shooting Marine shot the sneaky
bastard waiting with his Japanese rifle and bayonet, he realized the 'rules of
war' were not clear
cross-culturally.  He quickly "lost" the little red targets and
'acquired' a pistol, later a carbine. Now I am not an expert on the Geneva
Convention but IIRC from my USAF medic days I believe a medic may
carry self-defense weapons (Pistol, although a combat shotgun sounds
kind
of nice to me - actually I think an M-60, while outside the parameters a
bit, sounds even better.

<snip for the USMC guys to answer>

> 3) In the US forces, where the Queen is not head of state, what does

IIRC, a gentleman and an officer by act of congress.

> 4) Do other nations have a distinction between rank and appointment

Well the US Army has enlisted, warrant and commissioned,whereas the USAF has
enlisted and commissioned only. Again I leave the USMC to members, past and
present. And ditto for the Navy and my father's service, the USCG.

I would pull my Dad's 1942 Blue Jacket's manual but it is in a bag in a box in
the basement waiting the exchange of the Library and our Master Bedroom. Ugly
situation, that.

Gracias,

From: JRebori682@a...

Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:05:48 EST

Subject: Re: More military questions!

In a message dated 12/6/01 10:35:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> triphibious@juno.com writes:

> >4) Do other nations have a distinction between rank and appointment

I can answer to the USN having enlisted (Seamen and Petty Officers), Warrants,
and Commisioned.

John Rebori ETN2 (Discharged)
USN 1976 - 1982
ex-USS Pegasus PHM-1

From: David Rodemaker <dar@h...>

Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:15:09 -0600

Subject: RE: More military questions!

> >3) In the US forces, where the Queen is not head of state, what does

Correct, even if female. My wife is/was a 'gentleman'...

<g>

FWIW: Get a copy of the Marine NCO Handbook it has the answers to most
everything you've asked and even a couple of questions beyond them in the
chain of thought...

It will give you ranks (for all services), how to address said ranks,
uniforms, some basic unit structure, award lists, history, etc etc. etc.

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:28:09 +0100

Subject: Re: More military questions!

From: "Tomb" <tomb@dreammechanics.com>
To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>

> 1) Do Corpsmen/Medics travel armed usually? Does this vary based on

IIRC, according to the Geneva convention, they should be unarmed to get the
protective status offered them under the convention. In practice, they usually
carry pistols or simlar for protecting themselves and their patients.

Greetings