From: Tom B <kaladorn@g...>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:06:56 -0500
Subject: Re: more future history questions
textfilter: chose text/plain from a multipart/alternative G'day Tom, > [Tom] I have two subpoints to make: Israel, in your scenario, > I think this was a slip of the typing fingers Tom, but just to be clear [Tom again] I understood it was Mr. Friedman's used as a basis for your own projected or altered conclusion and thus I figured it was part of your scenario to have adopted his baseline and develop from. That's where that comment came from. Apologies as I'm not trying to mis-attribute anything. > [Tom] Given they are a basket case today.... > They're 14th largest economy in the world, not exactly a basket case - [Tom again] As I made the point elsewhere, Russia has a high GDP. I will bet if you could track the% of GDP that ends up in the pockets of the citizenry vs. the kleptocrats, you'd find that most of it goes by a mix of legal and illegal means into the pockets of the kleptocrats, to a greater extent than in some other places. They have virtually zero effort at solving murders of journalists with a high likelihood the powers that be in the state (aka also the kleptocrats and organized crime heads) don't really care as they ordered the killings. The Spetsnaz are a contract army that half the time works for the mob. The FSB has ties to the mob as does the police. Their is little delineation between oligarchs, those in political power, and organized crime. Power rotates around after Mr.Putin in a rather hilarious farce of democracy-in-name-only. Is it the worst place in the world? By no means. Some very smart folks. It has some good high tech centers and Moscow seems to be somewhat modern. On the other hand, it isn't far outside of those few centers you see the vast modern/not-so-modern divide and the huge economic disparities. Capitalism and a very messed up post-Soviet political system have made a small caste of the elite very wealthy. It hasn't done much for anyone else (arguably, they've backslid noticably). So, I say GDP is a bad measure of their state and they are a basket case. To not be a basket case, they need to sort out the messed up polity, the corruption in their business and law enforcement and judiciary, and to address some of the great disparities in the country in prosperity (who gets it and how).