More Fleet Book errata

5 posts ยท Nov 15 1998 to Nov 16 1998

From: Samuel Reynolds <reynol@p...>

Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:11:22 -0700

Subject: More Fleet Book errata

In finalizing my Armageddon Outfitter Fleet Book Ship Designer (say that 3
times fast!), I uncovered two apparent errors in the fleet book that I was
unable to find in the posted errata.

The first is in the Der Theuerdank Fighter Carrier, on p. 26. Recent
discussion on the list corrected the armor boxes from 15 to 14, but it also
has the wrong crew factor: it shows a crew factor of 10 in both the Specs and
the SSD, but this
should be 11 (220/20=11).

The second is the Assault Transport on p. 42. It is listed as TMF:120,
NPV:377. However, the ship as shown would be 316 Points, with 6 mass unused.
Adding a Level-1 Screen brings this to 337 Points,
with no mass unused. I believe this is what was intended, but I could be
wrong. If this is what was intended, it should be TMF:120, NPV:337.

- Sam

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:12:27 +0100

Subject: Re: More Fleet Book errata

> Samuel Reynolds wrote:

> The first is in the Der Theuerdank Fighter Carrier, on p. 26.

True.

> The second is the Assault Transport on p. 42.

Um... no, 351 points with 6 mass unused. You've forgotten to pay for the troop
quarters and one of the three mass 1 weapons here.

> Adding a Level-1 Screen brings this to 337 Points,

I get the cost to 369 points. This time you've definitely forgotten to
pay for the troop quarters. Still, 396 != 377 :-(

Regards,

From: Samuel Reynolds <reynol@p...>

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:02:50 -0700

Subject: Re: More Fleet Book errata

> Samuel Reynolds wrote:

Huh? There's only *one* mass-1 weapon: a single class-1 beam
battery.

> Adding a Level-1 Screen brings this to 337 Points,

396 also!= 369, but I know what you mean.

> Regards,

I mis-typed that number; it should have been 319 points,
not 316. Here's my numbers:

Assault Transport, p.42

Point Cost 319 Unallocated Mass 6

Hull Displacement (120) 120 Ship Type Military Hull Strength Weak 24 48 Thrust
2 12 24 FTL Capable 12 24

 Beam / 1               (1)             1       3
Fire Control System (1) 1 4 PDS (2) 2 6 Hangar Bay Cap: 20 mass 30 90 of small
craft Cargo Space T8 T8 T8 T8 32 0
                                        ----    ----
                                        114     319
Unallocated Mass (6)

Adding the screen:

Level 1 Screen 6 18
                                        ----    ----
                                        120     337
Unallocated Mass (0)

I assumed that the landers weren't included, since other hangars (fighter
bays) in the FB were priced empty. If I add the cost of the landers:

 Mass 5 Lander          (4)             -       40
                                        ----    ----
                                        114     377

So I guess the landers make up the difference, so the FB listing appears to be
missing the screen generator. Guess I need to add "interface vehicle" to my
Designer.

- Sam

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 05:18:26 +0100

Subject: Re: More Fleet Book errata

Samuel Reynolds

> >> The second is the Assault Transport on p. 42.

PDS are weapons as well (at least they're able to inflict damage on both
fighters and starships...), and there are 2 of those :-/

> I mis-typed that number; it should have been 319 points,

OK

> Cargo Space T8 T8 T8 T8 32 0

Ah, true. My fault - Jon originally wanted to charge design points for
cargo space, but he gave in eventually. I forgot that :-/

> I assumed that the landers weren't included, since other

You can't include fighters in the carrier costs, since there's no fixed cost
for a fighter squadron, but landing craft always costs 2xMass. Should've been
noted in the design box, though.

> If I add the cost of the landers:

Seems likely, yes.

> Guess I need to add "interface vehicle" to my Designer.

And an option to include the various fighter types, perhaps?

Later,

From: Samuel Reynolds <reynol@p...>

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:26:34 -0700

Subject: Re: More Fleet Book errata

> Samuel Reynolds

Already has that. <g> Add a fighter bay, and you get a popup for "Empty Bay"
or the various types of fighter. You can also specify how many identical bays
you want (i.e., you don't have to add additional bays, just set the number of
bays, unless you want a different kind of fighter).

- Sam