On the gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu list (Hi guys and Beth!) there has been
discussion on how mixed technology Battalions have advantages over 'pure'
one-weapon type forces.
In response to the posting I have skimmed up a small force reflecting a
possible mix (don't have access to the floppy with the Great Bear
Confederation forces on it I would normally suggest.) It's high tech
rather then my usual low to medium tech efforts but here it goes -
Fusion powered GRAV or FGEV vehicles
4 vehicles to a platoon, 3 Platoons to a Company, 3 Companies to a Battalion:
Light Mechanized Reconnaissance Company
Recon Platoon: Size 2; one FT, GMS/L, PDS/Sup, Superior ECM
Scout Platoon: Size 1; one FT, a second APSW, Superior ECM
LAT(R) Platoon: Size 2; MDC-2, GMS/H, Superior ECM
Mechanized Infantry Company
MICV Platoon: Size 3; FT x 2, GMS/L, PDS/Enhanced, LAD, Enhanced ECM
APC Platoon: Size 3; FT x 2, MDC-1, PDS/Basic, LAD, Superior ECM
Assault Rocket Support Platoon: Size 4; SLAM-5, PDS/Enhanced, LAD,
Enhanced ECM
Armored Company
LAFV Platoon: Size 3, MDC-3, PDS/Superior, LAD, Enhanced ECM
AFV Platoons: Size 3, MDC-4, PDS/Enhanced, Superior ECM
AFV Platoons: Size 3, MDC-4, PDS/Enhanced, Superior ECM
Company HQ unit (3 of them - one per Company)
HQ: Size 3, HQ modules (8 cap points), PDS/Superior, LAD, second APSW
(since HQ module is not a weapon), Superior ECM
ADS: Size 3, ADS/Enhanced, Enhanced CM
Mortar section: 2 x Mortar carrier: Size 2, spare Ammo counter, BAsic ECM
Battalion Assets:
Assault Gun Platoon:
Size 4; DFFG-5, PDS/Enhanced, LAD, Superior ECM
Battalion HQ Command: HQ; same as Company HQ vehicle
Guard Tank; Size 4, MDC-5, PDS/Enhanced, LAD
VTOL (A): Size 2; HEL-3 (Fixed for 6 cap points) and GMS/H
ADS: SIze 4; ADS/Superior
HAPC: Size 4; FT x 3, PDS/Superior, LAD, GMS/L, Enhanced ECM
attached Aero:
2 x Strike AC: Size 2; HEL-3 and DFO x 1
Attached Arty:
3 x SPG: Size 4; Medium Artillery, Extra Ammo load x 2, Superior ECM
CBR Unit: Size 4; CBR Radar, PDS/Superior, LAD, Superior ECM
Gracias,
> --- warbeads@juno.com wrote:
> Light Mechanized Reconnaissance Company
Not bad at all. I might argue with details, but a solid organization. This
organization is somewhat reminiscent of a WWII German Recon BN, with a mix of
companies of varying capabilities. Very flexible, but very complex to use. For
a regular line battalion I would drop the recon coy down to a platoon and add
a second armor or infantry coy.
> Mechanized Infantry Company
This one is a little wierd. First, you really need three maneuver elements,
plus a weapons platoon. Second, having 2 different APC designs in a single
company would really confuse me.
> Armored Company
OK, pretty solid tank company.
> Company HQ unit (3 of them - one per Company)
ADS with ECM? Why? When the sensors are active in air defense mode, the ECM is
nullified. I also really prefer to have 2 elements in a section like that.
Better coverage.
> Battalion HQ Command:
What's the HAPC for? And why not just having 2 of the regular sized APCs? Same
comment as above re: ADS. And the VTOL needs a wingman too.
> 3 x SPG: Size 4; Medium Artillery, Extra Ammo load x
I don't think that's enough artillery, but YMMV.
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:33:38 -0700 (PDT) John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> writes:
<snip>
> Are the SLAM tanks that useful? I took one look at
In role as support of the infantry units, they can be used to hit
MICVs/APCs at 36" or less during run in to assault thus reducing
harassing light guns/GMS-L weaponry. But most useful is at 12" or less
as the infantry prepares to bail out and move to assault is that ability to
pick a spot (APSWs, key points in the position) and put * 1 chit per weapon
class * on units you want destroyed or suppressed or at least morale effected
prior to assault. As effective as Artillery? No. An Adjunct? Yes. One set of 3
or 4 per force fielded is adequate if you are
attacking a defender/fixed position. That is where mixed units (3 APCs
plus an attached SLAM-5 assault vehicle) would be useful; Side effects
are that firing at vehicles supporting dismounted infantry within 1 or 2
inches is the possibility of hitting the vehicle and the infantry (Rarely
you get the satisfaction of hitting the APC and the disembarked GMS/L
crew. One reason to support Infantry, APSW, or GMS/L dismounts from 2
Inches away in fixed positions is reducing effectiveness of SLAM fire against
your position.)
That said, I prefer them on VTOL/dedicated strike AERO. A GMS/H (for
anti-armor role out to 48 inches in a VTOL or AERO (or replaced by a
DFO
in AERO Possibly) paired with a SLAM-3 [fixed = 6 capacity] in a VTOL or
AERO for multi-role fire make a nice size class 2 strike unit.
Of course the occasional HEL-3 (60 inch harassment of vehicular units -
nice if the dice are hot, 36 inch harassment of infantry - you might get
lucky and take out the APSW, GMS/L or PA unit) fixed plus GMS/H or DFO
in an AERO is useful in disrupting the psyche of some commanders too. Or in
a class size 4 AERO (double all that weaponry - 2 x HEL-3 fixed and a
GMS-H and a DFO for example) you get a unit that distracts or
mis-focuses
some commanders nicely too. Or a VTOL with HEL-3 Fixed and a (SLAM-3 or
GMS-H) can be used in the same way too. Not lots of them but a pair is
useful.
Just a small piece of the puzzle.
Of course in dense terrain (Hills, Jungle with tracks/trails, etc.) they
can be useful at harassing those expensive MDC armed AFVs too.
Gracias,
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:39:34 +1000 "Robertson, Brendan"
> <Brendan.Robertson@dva.gov.au> writes:
Thanks, I had forgot that.
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:53:01 -0700 (PDT) John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> writes:
<sniP>
> I really do think that this view of Russian troops
Hush, you're upsetting the Austrian "turtles"! LOL!
Gracias,
Everyone is good compared to Neapolitan troops. Neapolitan is not even
very good ice cream. Breyer's Vanilla-Chocolate-Strawberry (notice that
they don't call it Neapolitan) being the only exception I know of!
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:19:21 -0700 "Katrina Brown" <mwbrown@sonic.net>
writes:
> Austrians are good, especially when compared to Spanish or Neapolitan