(That was as many acronyms as I could comfortably fit in).
In an amazing feat of high speed work, I have painted the four SG2 powered
armor troopers I bought JUST LAST WEEK!!! (Consider that I still have IF ships
from April not even assembled
yet--heck, I've got Later Crusaders which are still in the
package from several years ago).
The difficulty with most camouflage I've seen on minis is that it has hard
edges. This looks good, but it isn't really good camo. So here's what I did:
a. Prime with dark grey primer b. Wash the figure in white b. Use a felt tip
marker to apply dazzle pattern c. Wash the whole figure in white again,
repeating if needed d. Carefully apply a black wash to deep joints e. Apply
faceplate and unit markings with pen The result is a weathered, faded looking
figure, about the color of wet cinderblock with a fuzzy disruptive pattern a
bit
darker--certainly not the most striking paint job I've done, but
that's the point.
All the mini's I've completed have been ships, though, so now I need to figure
out what to do with the bases. Suggestions?
(By the way--the troopies are a pair of APW and a pair of Plasma
Gunners, all NSL armor because that's what Alarish prefers. <vbg> Jon's
sculpting is down to his usual infuriating quality
levels--I did need to file a mold line from one helmet and I used
a drill to adjust the starboard shoulder joints to my satisfaction, but there
wasn't enough flash to make a spare backpack from and my file time was under
thirty seconds, so I was
disappointed once again </vbg>)
> At 10:31 PM 9/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
Um... oh, right, AE = Alarashi Empire?
At least you don't have any nested acronyms in there.
> In an amazing feat of high speed work, I have painted the four
Heh.
[snip paint job]
> All the mini's I've completed have been ships, though, so now I
Well, I'd assume you have an environment in mind for these people --
city, asteroid, snowscape (depends on how white they are...) or whatever.
Emulate it? Maybe concrete sidewalks or asphalt for city, rock (duh ^_-
)
for asteroid, snowy stuff with low scrub for snowscape....
> (By the way--the troopies are a pair of APW and a pair of Plasma
*Starboard* shoulder joint?
I think it's pretty obvious all you've done is ships, most people just call
that "right".... ^_-
> >All the mini's I've completed have been ships, though, so now
Alarishi troops tend to fight inside, or on the surface of whatever body they
happen to be on. So urban would work, and so would Lunar dust. My question was
not "what environment" but "how to simulate".
> *Starboard* shoulder joint?
"Right" from the point of view of the person wearing the armor, not "right" as
you look at it from in front.
> At 12:57 AM -0400 9/18/00, Laserlight wrote:
I've done a few Space Marines with tile patterns on the bases and
hangar-deck style safety marks and signage as decoration. They work
fine, sadly these were for sale so I can't provide photos.
> > *Starboard* shoulder joint?
oh, right
G'day
> Alarishi troops tend to fight inside, or on the surface of
Are you using slotter bases or something else of that size? Doesn't really
matter, just the bigger the base the more you can do with it (obviously).
You could try
1: Moon dust.
a) flock base with sand or fine saw dust\
b) stick on small pieces of kitty litter (clean obviously, before all you
smart alecs start up) or small stones c) when dry paint over all of it with a
medium to dark grey (if medium may also want to do a fairly watery black
wash), d) when dry dry brush with increasingly lighter shades of grwy through
to white
2: Asteroid/Mars - as for Moon dust but with browns/red-orange instead
of greys and whites.
3. Urban a) Cut piece of fine card into squarish shapes and stick tile like on
base (some will have to be cut smaller than others so look like they're under
the feet and others will obviously extend over the edge of the base and so
will also need trimming). If you want great concrete slabs like footpath
rather than tiled then maybe two pieces would do instead (so can see join in
concrete slabs but not heaps of tiles). b) Paint them medium to light grey if
doing concrete or maybe
reddy-brown
if terracotta (spelling?) tiles etc c) If light colour used in b) then do THIN
black wash (want just enough to
pick out groove between concrete slabs/tiles)
d) Drybrush with lighter grey/red-brown depending on whether doing
concrete or tiles If want to get really fancy, then you can edge the card at
step a) so that get that lip most concrete blocks have around them, or you can
scratch in handprints, "xx loves yy", "blah blah wuz here" etc into the card
so when wash it looks like the usual grafitti you see in concrete, etc. Maybe
a few wisps of grass coming up through a crack, depends on how adventurous you
feel;)
How's that for a start?
Cheers
Beth
> >Alarishi troops tend to fight inside, or on the surface of
Doesn't really
> matter, just the bigger the base the more you can do with it
SG NSL PA have bases which are part of the figure, perhaps 1.5cm across. For
three of the figures, the feet are fairly close together so I can't get too
fancy.
> a) flock base with sand or fine saw dust
Does that mean "paint base with white glue and then pour sand on it"? Or is
there some better technique?
> If want to get really fancy, then you can edge the card at step
Maybe a few
> wisps of grass coming up through a crack, depends on how
(small voice) I'll go back to starships now... <g>
When I played Battletech, I did some bases using model railroad balast. I
combined white glue, water, and a drop of plack paint. After glueing the
figure to the stand (with superglue), and placing balast on the stand I
covered the balast with the glue mixture and allowed it to dry. It worked very
well.
Note: The Battletech bases form a bowl, so it may not be as effective on a
flat base without edges to hold the mixture in.
Beth Fulton wrote
> >Alarishi troops tend to fight inside, or on the surface of
really matter, just the bigger the base the more you can do with it >
(obviously).
> [quoted text omitted]
[snip]
> 3. Urban
I must admit I have been too lazy for that. I paint my urban bases in concrete
gray and add a few dark grey lines with a sharp pencil to represent the panel
lines and cracks and then varnish them. I think they look OK. Near enough is
good enough.
Greetings Karl Heinz
> KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:
> Beth Fulton wrote
If you were feeling really keen you could remove the original cast-on
base and replace it with prescribed plastic card of a decent thickness (say 40
thou).
Evergreen make 'sidewalk' pattern card in various spacings / thicknesses
which sound like it would be ideal (in fact it's a square grid). For the
really, really keen you could model manholes covers, drains, etc.
And don't forget that your trooper should never, ever stand on the cracks in
the
pavement ... ;-)
> > a) flock base with sand or fine saw dust
I sometimes use paint to stick the flock/sand/whatever on, but in this
case
I think thinned (I use 50/50 with water) white glue and sand would work
quite well.
Tom
[quoted original message omitted]
> At 12:44 PM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote:
I use a 1:1:1 paint:and white ("tacky") glue:water mix with a tiny bit of dish
soap to reduce surface tension (I keep a 1 oz sqeeze bottle with 1 small drop
of soap, and add 1 drop from
the bottle to the paint/glue mix). But it's basically "paint
the base and pour flock/sand/tea-leaves/whatever on it."
When it's dry I may drip a little 50:50 water:white glue on top to fix it. I
also paint the base with a base color before
flocking, because the paint/glue/water mix may not be opaque.
- Sam
> Chris DeBoe wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
'Cos I've only got the one!
> Tony Francis wrote:
> And don't forget that your trooper should never, ever stand on the
Um... somehow I don't think PA troopers have to worry overly about
bears :-7
Sounds like an interesting paintjob - any chance of scans or pics on the
web?
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Thomas Pope wrote:
> > > a) flock base with sand or fine saw dust
I use 50/50 white glue/water for sticking flock, sand and similar down -
works better than paint does. For really bombproof coverage (I use this on
my hills) paint glue/water mix onto the surface, cover in flock, let
this sit for a couple of minutes. Then gently tap the excess flock off and,
using an eyedropper or similar, soak the whole thing in glue/water mix
again and let it dry overnight.
The flock comes out as tough as sandpaper, but it still looks like grass. Same
thing for sand and small gravel.
You're more likely to see them at GZGECC, but if Mr.Barclay keeps insisting as
he has been, I may be forced to expend some film before that.
[quoted original message omitted]
G'day,
> SG NSL PA have bases which are part of the figure, perhaps 1.5cm
OK, I checked out Derek's SG PA last night, not a lot of room there, but
you should be able to do some OK dust or tile patterns (might want to draw on
the tiles though as someone suggested). Derek has actually stuck the PA onto
slotter bases to give him some more room to work with (and it makes
the figure more stable on the table). Just a little bit of putty up the
sides and you can't see the join/base bump at all.
> a) flock base with sand or fine saw dust
Yep, though depending on the glue you may want to water it down a little.
> (small voice) I'll go back to starships now... <g>
I wouldn't worry too much, most people don't get as carried away as I do
;)
Have fun they sound great.
Beth
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:40:46 +0200, "Oerjan Ohlson"
<oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:
> Um... somehow I don't think PA troopers have to worry overly about
Okay, it's not GZG, but this write-up from our Cthulhupunk adventures
begs to differ. THIS bear could take on PA troops. (And in case you all think
this is entirely off topic, I HAVE done some preliminary conversions of
Cthulhu Mythos
stuff to FMA. Hmmm... Maybe it's time to buy more Mi-Go for BDS
playtesting...).
Check "The Right to Arm Bears" at: