Here's a question I'm hoping the people on this list can help me with:
I've cemented the various Full Thrust ships to their bases using
Inst-Cure+
(i.e. super glue). [That is, I'm gluing the posts into the holes drilled in
the bottom of the ship.] However, it seems that this is a high-stress
joint, so I'm having to constantly re-glue the posts back onto the
ships.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what glue/cement I should use for
a better bond?
Thanks in advance.
> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, John Menichelli wrote:
> I've cemented the various Full Thrust ships to their bases using
I had poor luck with this as well and decided to do away with it all together.
I've replaced the post with brass tubing and drilled the mounting hole in
deeper. I drill the hole the same diameter as the tubing I'm using (different
sizes depending on the size of ship).
You could use the same approach with the post included by pinning the post to
the ship with a bit of wire. Pinning entails drilling a small hole in both
sides of the joint and gluing a bit of wire between them. It helps
keep the joint together in high-stress areas.
> John Menichelli wrote:
John, I have been using epoxy to put the 'FT' bases together. First drilling
out the ships mounting hole (also relocating the
hole closer to the center of mass) to about 2/3 times the depth,
and increasing the diameter to almost 150%. Apply the epoxy to both the
mounting pin and hole, wait a couple minutes, mount and hold in place for a
couple more minutes. When completed you should have a small 'O ring' of epoxy
under the ship. Pinning the ship to the base is more secure, but I do not have
the time to use that method.
Bye for now,
> At 18:58 25/10/97 -1000, you wrote:
OK, here's what I do.
First off, drill a small hole inside the hole in the model. Then, drill a
similar hole (I use a pin vice) in the 'pole' you mount it on. Then, superglue
a straight piece snipped off a paper clip into the hole on the
'pole. Then glue all that into the model with a bit of two-part epoxy
glue, steady it with some tape or blutack and leave overnight. I've never had
one break despite being dropped, thrown, stuffed in bags..
TTFN
Jon
Cyanoacrylate glues are pretty useless in the long term for holding big bits
of metal together with a small contact area. The really only work if the
contact area is relativly large.
I use Chemical Metal which is based on styrene. Thats the UK brand name but
its probably available world wide, made by Isopon.
This is a catalytic compound with a curing chemistry similar to the resin used
to make fibre glass, but a lot faster. I find it cures much harder than epoxy,
so that you can even cut a thread using a tap. It has the characteristic
polyester resin smell.
You still need to pin the larger ships to the metal stands, use a plated wire
as it can rust, paper clips are perfect.
If using smaller ships I use the plastic flying bases (GW style) into a custom
hole filled with said compound and drilled out with the correct drill to give
a good fit on the base mount point
I like the sound of the brass tube idea but haven't tried it.
This has come up often enough to be on the FAQ.
sincerely
> Deeply in Love with Dot wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, John Menichelli wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what glue/cement I should use
Try a 2-part epoxy glue. Araldite or other brand names, the stuff
is essentially the same.
On Thursday, October 30, 1997 11:25 AM, Mikko Kurki-Suonio
> [SMTP:maxxon@swob.dna.fi] wrote:
IMO the slow cure epoxies are much stronger than the 5 minute type.
The old form of Araldite was a sort of pinky - buff colour, it took
about 12 hours to harden, but was considerably stronger then the 5 minute
version
which is clear/translucent in colour. The problem with slow cure glue if
holding it in place. The use of cyno glues to hold it is a good technique.
> On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Tim Jones wrote:
> IMO the slow cure epoxies are much stronger than the 5 minute type.
Yeah, but any epoxy is still miles better than superglue.