Thanks to John A, John R, Glenn, Brian, Don, etc.
Some good info there, although I am moderately perplexed by the USN having
both Warrants and Petty Officers (I sort of thought the warrant ranks were PO
equivalent....).
I'll keep an eye out for that Marine NCO's manual. It'd be a good addition (by
the sounds of it) to the next "Laserlight's Military Favorites" CD.
No matter how much you seem to learn about militaria, there seems to be new
things to absorb. And new stories to hear. I just finished reading about the
Breakout from Chosin and was mightily impressed. Not by the Army Corps General
who dug the hole for the Marines, but by the Marines escape. Now I'm tempted
to try to figure out a way to do a DS2 or SG2 version. I guess a series of
linked adventures and lots of mountainous terrain, something unusual on game
boards! Of course, the ESU tactics would
be simple --> apply the force of numbers and
fight until you are killed. The NAC marines might have a different method of
conducting the campaign. This goes right up there with my firebase Camarein
scenario.....
Tomb.
> On 7-Dec-01 at 03:10, Thomas Barclay (kaladorn@fox.nstn.ca) wrote:
Not even close. The ranks go E1-E3 (Varieties of seaman,
yeah yeah, heard all the jokes) E4 PO 3rd class, E5 PO 2nd class, E6 PO 1st
class, E7 Chief PO, E8 Senior Chief PO, E9 Master Chief PO
Then the warrants (Chief Warrant Officer I-III)
Then the zeros (O1 O2 O3 etc)
Technically this make a CWOIII junior to an ensign, but in reality it doesn't
work this way. I've seen CWO's in charge of a department on a carrier, never
an ensign or even a JG.
Maybe it isn't quite correct, but I always thought of Warrant Officers as
Chiefs with the authority and prestige their seniority and skills deserved
since most would be chiefs had they stayed enlisted.
> From: "Thomas Barclay" <kaladorn@fox.nstn.ca>
> Thanks to John A, John R, Glenn, Brian, Don, etc.
You're welcome. I wish it was from personal experience. Unfortunately, my
childhood medical record precluded me from serving my country the way so
many in my family have. It's one of my deepest lifelong regrets.
> Some good info there, although I am
Not in the USN. USN PO's are NCO's in the same way as Corporals & Sgt.'ts in
ground militaries. IIRC, WO's in the US Military are enlisted personnel
who happen to do jobs normally reserved for commissioned officers - Lots
of WO's in Viet Nam were helicopter pilots.
> Roger Books wrote:
You would have loved my dad. He only did 4 years, but boy did he make the most
of it.
Incidentally, I'm not sure about any other Navy, but in the USN, you should
remind them that there's the rank of Captain, and the title of Captain. The
CO of any ocean-going ship is "captain" while on board his ship, and
anyone other than him who might be the RANK of captain is called "Commander"
while on board someone else's ship. As an extreme example, there's one class
of
ocean going Landing/utility craft, the LVsomething, whose CO is a ship's
Captain, even though most of them are commanded by PO's.
> I'll keep an eye out for that Marine NCO's
It's not a DoD publication...
The author is Estes, and you can buy it from Amazon for (IIRC) $13 used, $18
New.
> Not in the USN. USN PO's are NCO's in the same way as Corporals
Noy quite, WO hold a warrant from the Congress in a similar manner as an
officer holds a commission. Enlisted are just that.