OK, this is something I know very little about and can't seem to find any
references for.
Does anyone here know how MPs are organized? I'm talking field MPs who guard
division HQs and such, not
garission turds who hassle GIs or POW-processing
companies, or whatever. I'm also interested in Air Force base defense units
and any foreign MP units that the various listers know the breakdown for. Most
interested in company and lower.
Let me ask my wife. (Former MP Captain, served in Panama and the Gulf War)
She'll know and be able to write up something nice if I ask nicely...
Do people want this on the list or should I send it to John private??
David
> -----Original Message-----
Sounds germane to me.
--
Ray Forsythe erf2@gte.net
> David Rodemaker wrote:
> Let me ask my wife. (Former MP Captain, served in Panama and the Gulf
> --- David Rodemaker <dar@horusinc.com> wrote:
I found an MTOE for a divisional MP company (which discusses equipment totals
for the company, but not
much about internal breakdown--it's on the FAS
website, thanks Laserlight), and an FM on MPs that gave a few more details.
Near as I can tell, it's supposed to be 3 teams in a squad, with each team
having a HMMWV and a squad has a total of 1x.50cal,
2xMk19s, 3xM-60 (now M-240??) and 3xSAW?? That's 9
automatic weapons for a unit with 10 men, of whom 3
are driving vehicles??? Plus every man has an M-16A2,
one per team having an M-203 mounted on it???? AND a
pistol?
This does not make sense to me--please ask your wife
if I'm misreading this or are MPs really that well armed?
> --- David Rodemaker <dar@horusinc.com> wrote:
Hi, John. This is Kiara, David's wife.
No, you are *not* misreading those manuals. MPs really *are* that well armed.
It freaks out some of the infantry types we've had to deal with, but a combat
MP unit is really motorized infantry, just with better armament, slightly more
specific missions, and a way around the combat exclusion laws for women.
PS - By the way - those "garrison turds" you were referring to? They're
exactly the same folks that pull combat duty - US Army MP's rotate out
between road duty and field duty. <smile>
Kiara
> -----Original Message-----
On, please.
Sounds both germane, and interesting.
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:34:40 -0600
*sigh* I was an MP for six years. I LOVED the combat mission roles,
but I loathed the law-enforcement aspect of the garrison mission.
Something everyone either realizes or eventually get's told (not offically or
during training) as an MP is that as the troops responsible for security
behind friendly lines, MP's are going to be facing the enemies elite troops,
the ones the enemy trains to operate behind enemy lines and NOT get caught.
It's that and the need to be able to respond to almost any situation with
speed and decisive firepower that get's the MP's trucks and more guns than
their soldiers could actually fire at any given time.
Althought the TOE calls for enough M-2(.50cal) machine guns for each
squad to have one, in practice the numbers are usually smaller. One
unit I served in had one "Ma-Deuce" and naturally the company commander
decided she needed it on her truck.
Puns based on MP:
"Can't spell whimp without MP." Counterpun- "Can't take a crap without a
grunt."
"Military Police? Who're they? We're Multi-Purpose..."
"Globe-O-Cop: Policing the World so Third and Fourth World Countries
don't have to."
--Flak
> On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 19:08, Kiara S. Rodemaker wrote:
They're
> exactly the same folks that pull combat duty - US Army MP's rotate out
> *sigh* I was an MP for six years. I LOVED the combat mission roles,
Hush! You aren't supposed to let the 11BangBang's know that! They might figure
out a way to get their hands on our *stuff*!!! <aghast>
> It's that and the need to be able to respond to almost any situation
This would be the *perfect* place to insert my favorite DWI road-check
story
involving a platoon recently back from a hostile-fire zone being
assigned to
pull cars over at a road-block and check for drunks and the resulting
"decisive firepower" when a car decided to run the road-block...
Fill in your own details. You're probably correct. :-)
> Althought the TOE calls for enough M-2(.50cal) machine guns for each
She should have been taken out back by her 1SG and had some sense beaten into
her.
My unit never had a problem getting the weapons we were assigned, but we
deployed so often that we were kept pretty well equipped.
Spare tires and radiator hose, however, were *major* supply issues.
Kiara