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Hi,

> 5) Adrian, I'm not sure Canada has been

The "Gulf War" was a war by anyone's definition, I would think. Canadian F18
pilots used live ordnance on Iraqi troops, boats, tanks, etc. In fact, a
couple of Canadian pilots were awarded US Bronze Stars... Canadian ships were
aggressive in enforcing sanctions, a Canadian army field hospital was deployed
into Saudi Arabia and up against the combat zone, etc. Sure, our politicos
wussed out and refused to put the brigade in that the US and Brits asked us
for, but in any event, this would be safely "involved in a war", I would
think.

Would the bombing of Serbia and Kosovo be considered a war? It wasn't on the
scale of the Gulf conflict, but I would think so... NATO decided to beat on
the Serbs to get them to do what NATO wanted. Pretty warish. Canadian F18's
were active again there, with live ordnance...

That's two. Afghanistan is 3. The fight there wasn't just against the
terrorists, it was also against the Taliban who were (arguably) the government
in control of the country. Ok, so we didn't mail them a declaration of war and
make it "official", but saying the fighting in Afghanistan isn't a "war" is
like saying the "conflict" in Vietnam was a "police action". It might not be
like WWII, but it certainly isn't like "the war on drugs". Canadian infantry
don't get bombed in the war on
drugs...

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> At 02:28 31/05/02 -0400, you wrote:

Strange, I thought that would be one of the risks getting "bombed";)

Cheers

> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:28:41AM -0400, Adrian Johnson wrote:

> Would the bombing of Serbia and Kosovo be considered a war? It wasn't

I think warfare should reasonably need to include bullets going BOTH
ways...

> That's two. Afghanistan is 3. The fight there wasn't just against

> It might not be like WWII, but it certainly isn't like

Give the Americans time..

Katie Lucas schrieb:
> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:28:41AM -0400, Adrian Johnson

I must say, this is a pretty peculiar definition of war. Especially if you see
it from the people on the receiving end. What would you call a situation where
bullets fly only one way?

Several Allied planes were shot down, including an F117 Stealth fighter.

And there was something of a ground war going on (between the Serbian army &
associated thugs and Albanian civilians and UCK guerillas).

Greetings

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:25:23AM +0200, KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
wrote:
> Katie Lucas schrieb:

Depending on the circumstances: oppression, terrorism, manifest destiny or
just

> > I think warfare should reasonably need to include bullets

Rather unhealthy situation. Much better to arrange your wars so that all the
bullets are outbound.

What would you call
> a

manifest
> destiny

Whoa! I assure you, my father's people shot back at my mother's people.
Sometimes shot first. "Two Way War."

or just
> plain unfair.

I believe that's called life - not war.

Gracias,