Should Jerry be occupied, I'll point out that there's nothing magical; I've
never heard anything rejected. These are not all, or even mostly, official.
Check the explanation of the entries:
http://www.warpfish.com/jhan/ft/gzgpedia/entries.shtml
Take a look at the other entries for ideas, and realize many of us started
with only ideas bantered on the list, and had them entered without our even
asking. ;->= You CAN go back and fill in blanks or make corrections as
your stellar power ferments in your imagination.
Sharing on the mailing list is a good way to get it developed further, of
course.
Then, when you feel like giving it a go, take what you've thought up so far,
fill in as much as you can in the format described above, and mail it to
Jerry.
I still haven't figured out yet if the TFNS is conventional or open, though...
The_Beast
Hi folks,
Yup, that's pretty well it. I usually am occupied, unfortunately; an evil
thing known as Real Life. Then I usually get focused in trying to
maintain the GZG Archives or the GZG-ECC website. (Everybody come to
Pennsylvania, damnit. (8-) ). Then I get around to the 'Pedia stuff.
But it gets up, eventually. (8-)
> devans@uneb.edu wrote:
I've
> never heard anything rejected. These are not all, or even mostly,
The only time I reject stuff is when I think it's too detailed or too long for
a 'Pedia entry. I'm looking for overview stuff, and then links to websites
where the real juicy stuff is kept. I don't have the quota or the time to be a
webspace provider, unfortunately. *shrug*
Actually, if people are looking for things to do with the 'Pedia, there are a
lot of official nations that could use some fleshing out...
*wink wink* (8-)
Later, JGH
I went to the Unofficial GZG Encyclopedia Galactica page, and I found a few
unclaimed stars in just the righ position for a couple of them to hold the
CNP. But I had difficulty making sure they weren't M-class. Could
someone give me a hand with this?
They are:
AY Indi Wolf 1495
AC 122306-155
Ross 845 Ross 848 CD 559073 CD 607821 L CP 407021 LTT
And they're wedged between the NAC and the LLAR.
Thanks,
Been awhile since I did any astronomy, but I thought desirable stars were
close to G0; likewise, I thought the 'M-class' designation was a Trek
thing for a planet, not a star.
Learned men to follow and properly thrash me for my insolence.
The_Beast
> Been awhile since I did any astronomy, but I thought desirable
My equally hazy memory agrees with yours. M-sequence stars are more of
the red giant type I believe.
Tom
> > Been awhile since I did any astronomy, but I thought desirable
Stellar spectral type "M" means a star is red/cool. It could be a giant
or a dwarf. Spectral type refers to temperature, not to size.
If you're talking about a Star Trek "class M" planet, that's something like
"hospitable to humanoid life" or something like that.
None of these look all that inviting, as far as habitable planets goes. A
quick search on the web turns up the following information -- look
deeper, you'll probably find more, including maybe the class for some of
these, in addition to spectral type.
-- JErry Acord
acord@imagiware.com
> AY Indi
http://www.alcyone.de/SIT/UVCet/SIT003439.htm
> Wolf 1495
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c04243.htm
> AC 12â2306-155
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c01144.htm
> Ross 845
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c01113.htm
> Ross 848
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c01126.htm
> CD 55â9073
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c02262.htm
> CD 60â7821 L
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c01791.htm
> CP 40â7021 LTT
http://www.ari.uni-heidelberg.de/aricns/cnspages/4c01221.htm
Hiya,
M-class stars are dimmer than G-class stars -- there's a mnemonic for
stellar spectra that goes: "O, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me" which relates
to the letter-coded spectrum notation, in descending order of
brightness: O B A F G K M.
-- Rick Rutherford
[quoted original message omitted]
> Brian Bilderback wrote:
The following are courtesy of the SIMBAD astronomical database.
> They are:
M0.5 flare star. Also known as V* AY Ind.
> Wolf 1495
M2. High propoer motion (ie, it's moving relatively fast in comparison to
others around). Also known as GJ 3809.
> AC 12Â2306-155
Had a hard time with this one as the SIMBAD database doesn't recognize this
designation. I had to hop a few catalogs to get this as LTT 5734 or Wolf 1478
before the SIMBAD database would recognize it. It is an
M3.5 variable star; already told you two other designations for it. ;-)
> Ross 845
M4.5 flare star. Also known as V* GQ Vir.
> Ross 848
M3.5 high proper motion star, also known as GJ 545.
> CD 55Â9073
K5 high proper motion star. Also known as HD 211970.
> CD 60Â7821 L
M0.5 variable star; also known as NSV 13984. Not sure what the "L" signifies.
> CP 40Â7021 LTT
M2.5 variable star. Also known as NSV 7119 or LTT 6210. Not sure why the LTT
is listed as you have it above; shouldn't be there.
Probably a few good reason why these stars are unclaimed. Now why the Alarishi
haven't already snagged them up is something to think about...
Mk
Hey, you're one up on me. I was just using the designation mentioned in the
Star Lists.
Brian
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: devans@uneb.edu
Damn, back to the drawing board. Thanks for the info.
Brian
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Jerry Acord" <acord@imagiware.com>
A
> quick search on the web turns up the following information -- look
Again, bad news. Thanks. Anyone with any suggestions?
Brian
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: Indy <kochte@stsci.edu>
;-)
> > Ross 845
> "Brian Bilderback" <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Damn, back to the drawing board. Thanks for the info.
...and...
> Again, bad news. Thanks. Anyone with any suggestions?
Not to get too far off topic, but one thing I forgot to point out is that as a
rule of thumb, all nearby stars will be dwarfs (like the sun) and not giants
(like e.g. Betelgeuse). If a nearby star of spectral type M were a giant, it
would be quite bright in the night sky, and would probably have its own
mythological name rather than only a catalog number to identify it. And we are
talking about the local neighborhood here, right?
(Betelgeuse is a red supergiant, and as I recall is something like 200 parsecs
away, and it's one of the brightest stars in the sky.)
Proximity to Sol/Earth in comparison is less an issue for me as is
proximity to both NAC and LLAR territory.
Brian
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Jerry Acord" <acord@imagiware.com>
> And we are talking about the local neighborhood here, right?
> Been awhile since I did any astronomy, but I thought desirable stars
True
> likewise, I thought the 'M-class' designation was a Trek thing
*whack whack* Haven't you been paying attention to the OU claiming "all the
useless M stars" and Alarishi Empire claiming all th useful ones? M stars are
small, cool, red (comparatively, you'd still see them as white), not likely to
have habitable planets.
Alarish (the 'planet', actually a moon) orbits a brown
dwarf/superjovian planet, which provides more insolation (mostly in
infrared) than the M class star which the superjovian orbits.
> Probably a few good reason why these stars are unclaimed. Now
The OU has claimed them; however, whether the AE or OU gets the salvage from
any visitors depends on who's around at the time.
Quite interesting, but still it, as someone has put it, "Leaves me hanging."
Still looking for suggestions, even one system would be nice at this point.
Brian
"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."
- S. Freud
> From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
> Quite interesting, but still it, as someone has put it, "Leaves me
we're really all just waiting until Nyrath gives you a suggestion. Since he's
the Astrocartographer in the group, it would be wise policy to adopt whatever
he tells you. Just define the parameters on what you want.
By the way, if you really want to get into the star types and habitability
zones and all that, *highly* recommended is Worldbuilding, by Steven Gillett.
As mentioned by others, M-class stars are small and cool (relatively !)
Class G M Temp 5.8x10e9 3.3x10e9
The M class is about 0.3x Sun's radius and 0.2 x Sun's mass. You would need
about 100 M-class to shine as brightly as a G class.
NB All figures are approximate !!! ;-)
I do not recognise the star references you have quoted, or at least, neither
of my astronomy programs have them in their databases in that form, so I can't
help you with those.
Cheers, Iain.
[quoted original message omitted]
From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
> Alarish (the 'planet', actually a moon) orbits a brown
Official OU comment: Luxury! We used to DREAM of... never mind.