looking for pics\SPOILER B5

19 posts ยท Jan 8 1997 to Jan 13 1997

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:39:21 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

SPOILER!!!!!
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I am working on a new counter sheet for B5/FT. I have finished the
Nova Class EA, the Vree Saucer, and the cylinder ship. I need desperately,
good photos of the Drazi Sunhawk and that big bastard that was with the Fleet
of light in the engagement with the Shadow fleet. Anyone help??

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:01:18 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> SPOILER!!!!!

[extra snipped; hope you got the msg ;) ]

> I am working on a new counter sheet for B5/FT. I have finished the

The Brakiri ship? Or are you thinking of another one? Not that I can
help, just trying to clarify. There is an okay off-angle shot of the
Brakiri cruiser (which looks almost as large as a Minbari Sharlin cruiser) in
the latest batch of Fleer cards (#38 in fact).

No, I don't have an extra. Sorry.

Mk

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:11:23 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> At 7:39 AM -0800 1/8/97, Mike Wikan wrote:

That big bastard, as you so aptly put it, is a Bra'kiri ship. I don't have a
photo, but now you know what to ask for. It seems to be slightly smaller than
a Mimbari cruiser, which makes it around a mile long.

From: Adam Delafield <A.Delafield@b...>

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:50:37 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

Date sent:  9-JAN-1997 08:49:23
> SPOILER!!!!!

Just a suggestion, but wouldn't it be a good idea to state which episode the
spoilers are for?

From: Mike Miserendino <phddms1@c...>

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:13:56 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> Michael Carter Llaneza wrote:
:
> That big bastard, as you so aptly put it, is a Bra'kiri ship. I

A mile long!? I didn't think the ships were that big. Maybe B5 itself,
but...

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:13:04 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> Michael Carter Llaneza wrote:

Massive ships they have there. You know B5 is 5 miles long; take a look at how
big the major ships appear next to it. Omega destroyers, GROPOS ship,
Minbari cruisers, Narn cruiser...them big-@$$ ships...

Mk

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:03:17 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

no spolilers!!!
> smaller than a Mimbari cruiser, which makes it around a mile long.

I've posted this before, but it seems apprpriate again:

> In the first-season episode "Legacies" a Minbari war cruiser arrives at
Compared with the
> FT superdreadnought, the "heavy" design war cruiser has more

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:42:02 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> no spolilers!!!

*grin* I have vague memories of this.

> In the first-season episode "Legacies" a Minbari war cruiser arrives

.....can you say 'inconsistency' gang?  ;-)

(someone could always be bold enough to ask jms directly ;-)

Mk

From: Adam Delafield <A.Delafield@b...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:02:12 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

Date sent:  10-JAN-1997 09:00:08

> .....can you say 'inconsistency' gang? ;-)

> (someone could always be bold enough to ask jms directly ;-)

Wouldn't bother. I once asked him about the number of Shadow ships involved in
attacks, and he got it WRONG! It would seem that the SFX department has a mind
of their own.

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:34:59 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

B5 is 5 miles long. Watching a taped episode last night, it shows a
Minbari WC alongside B5-stationary. It seems to be a little under
1/3rd the length of B5. This would make it pretty darn big!

From: Alun Thomas <alun.thomas@c...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:58:01 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

[...]
> Massive ships they have there. You know B5 is 5 miles long; take a
[...]
> In the first-season episode "Legacies" a Minbari war cruiser arrives

.....can you say 'inconsistency' gang?  ;-)

(someone could always be bold enough to ask jms directly ;-)

I'm game - what's his e-mail address ?

From: Mike Miserendino <phddms1@c...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:27:35 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> Mark Kochte wrote:

Yeah, I guess you're right. The numbers just seems a bit misleading until you
look at the ships next to B5.

From: Mike Miserendino <phddms1@c...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:36:19 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> Rob Paul wrote:

Well that makes it about 1/5 of a mile long.  Still pretty darn big!

> Weight: 600 M Tons Command Staff: 4

The weight seems a bit off though for a ship that big. That is 600 Metric
tons, right? If yes, I was expecting something like maybe 100,000 Metric tons.

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:24:02 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> At 1:34 AM -0800 1/10/97, Mike Wikan wrote:

And a Bra'kiri ship is just slightly smaller than a Mimbari cruiser, at least
thats how it looked in "Shadow Dancing."

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:12:05 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> In the first-season episode "Legacies" a Minbari war cruiser arrives

jmsatb5@aol.com

Mk

From: Michael Smit <mcsmit@v...>

Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:59:20 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> Sometime in the past, you wrote:
}>B5 is 5 miles long. Watching a taped episode last night, it shows a
}>Minbari WC alongside B5-stationary. It seems to be a little under
}>1/3rd the length of B5. This would make it pretty darn big!
}>Mike Wikan
}
}And a Bra'kiri ship is just slightly smaller than a Mimbari cruiser, at}least
thats how it looked in "Shadow Dancing."
}
}Michael Carter Llaneza

Something I've been thinking about...

Most of the other races have various sizes and types of ships. However, we've
only seen one capital design for the Minbari. What if they just use the same
design, but scale it up?

That way, you could have a Minbari Dreadnought that was 1/3rd the length
of B5, and smaller cruisers that are 300m long.

Another benefit of at least external similarity would be in combination with
ECM and cloaking technologies... How far away are the ships? Is it a carrier
or a battleship? &c...

Just hypothetical, of course.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 05:10:27 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Mike Miserendino wrote:

> >>Weight: 600 M Tons Command Staff: 4

It could mean Megaton, too (well, should be Mton in that case). 6 million
tons... for something a mere 300 meters long? And with B5 itself massing

2.5 Mton... Hm.

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:10:24 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Mike Miserendino wrote:

My guess was that it either meant 600,000 tons, and that the usage had been
changed to make it unfamiliar (using M as in the Roman system), or that it
referred to some "conventional tonnage" (like the different tonnages used for
earthly vessels) or that the graphic was made by a numpty with no sense of
numbers...

From: Daniel Cleyne <DCleyne@c...>

Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:05:00 -0500

Subject: Re: looking for pics\SPOILER B5

> that it referred to some "conventional tonnage" (like the different

That has a certain ring of truth to it. If you have a look at the keyboard
where the 'M' is it isn't that far from where the 'K' is and they may have
meant 600 K tonnes...

you just never know...

Dan