LLAR Website

9 posts ยท Jul 21 2000 to Jul 27 2000

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:35:12 +0200

Subject: LLAR Website

Hello everybody

I am proud to announce that I now have inflicted my first work as a
web-designer on the world.

The League of Latin American Republics (LLAR) now has a website on:

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:10:57 -0400

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

> The League of Latin American Republics (LLAR) now has a website on:

Looks good. Sooner or later I'm going to get motivated--more accurately,
I'm
going to get time--to rework the Alarishi and Islamic Fed pages along
these lines. The only thing I see that might need revision is on the coat of
arms:

a) The field (background) ought to be black, or in any event a color other
than white, to avoid having a metal (gold) on metal (silver). Heraldric colors
(European) are red, green, blue, purple, black.

b) the quetzal's tail ought not to be in front of the arms, and it should
probably be in a more active position (eg, displayed).

c) the shield should be supported by the condor and jaguar--they
shouldn't be just standing there.

Everything else looks good (insofar as I can tell without speaking Spanish or
Portuguese). Applause.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:56:59 -0500

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

***
Looks good. Sooner or later I'm going to get motivated--more accurately,
I'm
going to get time--to rework the Alarishi and Islamic Fed pages along
these lines. The only thing I see that might need revision is on the coat of
arms:

...(several suggestions to bring into a line heraldic standards)...
***

The LIRA will never be bound by the old world restrictive sensibilities!
;
->=

Seriously, Karl, I had trouble SEEING the Coat of Arms; I keep getting a
broken pic at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/kh.ranitzsch/lira/grafiken\lirawapp.gif

whereas I see it fine if I type in:
http://home.t-online.de/home/kh.ranitzsch/lira/grafiken/lirawapp.gif

Honestly, this site causes me great shame. I don't even have Chris's 'no time'
reason to create my own site for my alt hist, the Texaco Free Trade Zone. I've
merely scanned yours, but it does bring to me great envy!

The_Beast

-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon

One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:18:38 -0400

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

Very nice and well worth the wait (for us) and the effort you put into it.

> At 18:35 2000-07-21 +0200, you wrote:

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From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:37:26 +0200

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

> > The League of Latin American Republics (LLAR) now has a website on:
Heraldric
> colors (European) are red, green, blue, purple, black.

Yes, I am quite aware of the rules of heraldry. Still:

a) existing Latin American coat-of-arms do not adhere too closely to the
rules of heraldry b) for the grafics, I have used what I could get my ands on.
Condor and
Jaguar shieldbearers were not in my clip art catalogues ;-)

Greetings Karl Heinz

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:04:11 -0400

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

> a) existing Latin American coat-of-arms do not adhere too closely to

I thought they might not,that's why I said "European" in the colors.

> b) for the grafics, I have used what I could get my ands on. Condor

An unbelievable oversight, I expect you'll speak sharply about this to the
compilers. :-)

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:11:17 +0200

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

Comments to the LIRA/LLAR ship designs at
http://home.t-online.de/home/kh.ranitzsch/lira/main.html:

Fidel Castro-class BDN: The ship specs say "TMF: 157" and also "Mass
Factor 150". 157 is correct, assuming that 1 Mass is deliberately left unused
to represent obsolesence; 150 is too small.

Simon Bolivar-class BB: Magazine capacity is usually measured in Mass
rather than "salvoes" (to avoid confusion over which type of missiles are
carried). The magazine is thus capacity 8, not 4. The SSD shows an ADFC which
is missing in the ship specs. NPV is only 472, not 143 (again assuming 1 Mass
is unused to represent obsolesence).

Huascar-class CH: 1 Mass unused; paid for as weapon/PDS.

Cristobal Colon-class CE: The ship specs say "TMF 63" and also "Mass
Factor 66".The ship specs say that the armament is with 3 x B3 (no arcs
specified); the SSD shows 1xB3-5 + 3 B2 (1x5-arc (!) + 2x3-arc).
Neither armament makes it possible to get the specified NPV (219) for either
TMF 63 or TMF 66.

Hernando Cortez-class CL: 2 Mass unused, paid for as weapons/PDS.

Caribe-class DD: 2 Mass unused, paid for as weapons/PDS.

Ciudad de Habana-class CT: A Salvo Missile Launcher without a magazine
has no ammunition, so it is completely unable to fire. Apart from that, the
Habana is a legal design.

Regards,

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:19:08 +0200

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

> Comments to the LIRA/LLAR ship designs at

My error in copying mass, Have corrected SSD and table.

Re: 1 mass unused: I used Sean Schoonmaker FB1 Excel file from the computer
core for the calculation. This calculates the mass bottom up from the ship's
systems. Perhaps there is an error in the rounding used? Will check and
revert.

> Simon Bolivar-class BB: Magazine capacity is usually measured in Mass

Revised SSD and table. Added ADFC, removed 1 armour to keep total mass.
re:unused mass see above

> Huascar-class CH: 1 Mass unused; paid for as weapon/PDS.

Messed up, have corrected the design. If I read the rules correctly, it really
does not make any cost difference
to have 5 or 6-arc B2 ?

> Hernando Cortez-class CL: 2 Mass unused, paid for as weapons/PDS.

replaced the SML with a salvo missile rack. revised table, SSD to follow

> Regards,

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:50:14 +0200

Subject: Re: LLAR Website

> Brian Bell wrote:

> Well.. the FB1 rules doesn't really make any provision for 2-, 4- and

Yes, of course. I've been working with Pulsers for too long :-/