Last Post

Is there anyone else riding her down to the event horizon?

MRB

On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Michael Blair wrote on the new list:

> Is there anyone else riding her down to the event horizon?

to infinity and beyond!

Tom

> At 17:53 24/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
I suppose I should be here until the end. Captain/ship sort of thing...

As it happens the plan is not to actually shut this list down, at least in the
near future. After I leave BI, the list will stop accepting new messages.
Instead, should you post a message to this address the server will pop a
message back to you saying something like 'this list is now closed, please
send mail to the new list location of blah blah yakkity schmakity'.

                                TTFN
                                        Jon

> Michael Blair wrote:

Oh, yeah. I'm not going anywhere.

> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, John M. Atkinson wrote:

> Michael Blair wrote:

Although I gather from Der-ex-ListFurher's post that we aren't going to
have some grand flameout of HMS Boulton. She'll just drift into the void and
loose commo sometime in the near future, and continue coasting along in
sublight until the end days.

Too bad, really. Some grand flameout would be a more fitting end...

On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Brian Burger wrote on the other list:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, John M. Atkinson wrote:

a ghost list...

> Too bad, really. Some grand flameout would be a more fitting end...

bolton's not too far from oxford; i am sure something could be arranged,
heheheh...

Tom

> At 06:00 PM 11/24/98 +0000, you wrote:

Hmm, so this means we actually *should* unsub from the bolton list? ^_^

> Jonathan White wrote:

I'm going to remain jacked in, to make sure the archives are as complete as
possible (though I'll probably delete the several zillion
'unsubscribe' messages sent to the list.)  (8-)

(I can't believe I just said 'jacked in'.  (8-) )

J.

> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Jerry Han wrote:

i am compiling a sort of sub-archive, dealing with the last days of the
list. i'm going to request reviews every now and then to track the decline and
fall of the list.

conversely, i am also compiling a Hall of Shame of those who mistakenly sent
their unsub commands to the list itself.

people have expressed their happiness with the 'new list smell'; i must say i
also like the feeling of being all but alone in the ghost of what was just a
week a go a thriving community. it's like walking through the ruins of
Pompeii.

Tom

> people have expressed their happiness with the 'new list smell'; i must

> was just a week a go a thriving community. it's like walking through
tell you what it reminds me of. I used to work for a firm that rent PA systems
out to stadiums & arenas for gigs etc. I used to go in the next morning to rip
all the stuff down and pack it back to the warehouse.

You'd walk into a big arena and it'd be silent. There'd usually be tons of
litter on the ground - programmes and flyers and food cartons and
whatever. The really big covered places always had this wierd vibe about them,
like you could still here the noise of the crowd in the back of your mind.

That's what posting this post right now feels like. Too strange.

                        TTFN
                                        Jon

> On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Jerry Han wrote:

I know lots of people have unsubbed (at least, the number of misdirected
unsub msgs argues that) but another post said there's still 190-some of
us...I hadn't even realized the list was that big at it's height...what
_was_ the total population of the list just prior to The End?

(Lurkers and all, of course. There's never been more than a few dozen active
writers to the list, by my very rough estimate. (50, tops) That would mean
there are dozens of lurkers for every one of us who actually posts.)

> conversely, i am also compiling a Hall of Shame of those who

:) Proably not polite to hold over people's heads. Entertaining, though...

> people have expressed their happiness with the 'new list smell'; i

I kind of like the 'ghost ship' image better - more fitting for an SF
list. An electronic 'Marie Celeste', perhaps? I know what you mean, though.

> On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Jonathan White wrote:

what, for crowd control? i know the Stones hired the Hell's Angels to do
security at one of their gigs in the us back in the daze, but cap troopers?

[joke: PA = public address = power armour]

> You'd walk into a big arena and it'd be silent. There'd usually be

a little like going into a lecture theatre or a lab after everyone has gone.

> That's what posting this post right now feels like. Too strange.

yes, this place is big and empty. hey, let me try something:

ECHO!

Tom

> On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

... echo! ...

wow! cool!

Tom

> Thomas Anderson wrote:

ECHO!!

A friend of mine was telling me about a movie she saw, where basically the
world was going to end in six hours, and what they did in those last six
hours. I've got kind of that feeling right now. Will it hurt
when the plug gets pulled?  (8-)

Anyways, what is the last day anyways? I'll hoist a drink or two.
(Any excuse is a good one.  (8-) )

J.

> On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

Very cool.

..echo..

..ecccchooooooooooo...

(too bad email can't support HTML's <font size> tag - we could do really
cool things with diminishing letter sizes in 'echo'...)

Zen thought of the day: On a list that offically doesn't have a purpose
any more, is there such a thing as an off-topic post?

Off topic and echoingly yours,

So... says the casual lurker asks: how does one reach the new GZG list server?

Thanks,

Funny I thought I was just being overly sentimental hanging around on this
list. Odd but its the list I've spent the most time on alternately posting and
lurking. I met quite a fe interesting people in that time.. Mostly lunatics
like me though.

I like the ruins of Pompei analogy..Very fitting.

For some reason it reminds me a little of the Traveller universe..The Long
Night and all that.   Civilisation gone and possibly never going to
reappear..Although I suppose we've already set up our own 3rd Imperium on the
GZG list.

Anyway enough with the rambling.

> At 05:54 PM 11/25/98 +0000, you wrote:

ool... ...ool....

^_^

> A friend of mine was telling me about a movie she saw, where basically
Wim wenders I believe. Can't remember the name though

> Will it hurt when the plug gets pulled? (8-)
Only metaphorically:).

> Anyways, what is the last day anyways? I'll hoist a drink or two.
Some time next week I think. I will post a message before it happens.

                        TTFN
                                Jon

> I know lots of people have unsubbed (at least, the number of
There possibly are still 190 people subscribed. The last review I did before
the switchoff was announced had (hold on a sec) 284 names on it. That was on
the 10th of this month. Blimey.

                                TTFN
                                        Jon

On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Jimmy Cox wrote
> So ... says the casual lurker asks:

funny place to lurk... this place is scheduled for demolition.

> how does one reach the new GZG list

> On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Jonathan White wrote:

one i just did (1630 GMT 26/11/1998) says 179 now - we've lost 13 people
since yesterday afternoon; roughly one every 90 minutes. at this rate, the
list will be clear in almost exactly five days. i'll keep counting. there may
be a slowdown at the end as me, john atkins and other
singularity-riders fight it out to be the last man aboard ...

Tom

> one i just did (1630 GMT 26/11/1998) says 179 now - we've lost 13
there
> may be a slowdown at the end as me, john atkins and other
It's an obvious question but if you lot are all waiting to be the last person
on, aren't you all going to be here forever?

                        TTFN
                                Jon

> On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Jonathan White wrote:
there
> >may be a slowdown at the end as me, john atkins and other

erm... yes. that's the problem. eventually, all but one of us will give up and
unsubscribe. it's that or i take to SMTP and fake john's email
address :-).

Tom

> Brian wrote:

> Although I gather from Der-ex-ListFurher's post that we aren't going

Nah. It's just like the turn-over between Honor Harrington's Fearlesses
-
the building of the second one (the CA) was IIRC already started when the
first (the CL) was scrapped, so there was always a Fearless in the RMN
:-)

Later,

> At 17:29 26/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
there
> >may be a slowdown at the end as me, john atkins and other

Hey I like it but don't go trying it on me. I can't say being the last person
out really bothers me. It is interesting to be able to follow the thread
around here these days. Even if most of it consists of unsub messages gone
awry.

We're an odd bunch really.

> At 09:40 AM 11/26/98 , you wrote:
Well I finally got my confirmation message to the new list (the attempt from
Monday seems to have failed), so I guess it's time to jump ship and move on.

After watching the final episode of B5 last night, I'd rather not stay
until <after> the lights are turned off :-)

> Jonathan White wrote:

> It's an obvious question but if you lot are all waiting to be the last

Hey, until the list shuts down, and ends it all...

Do we _have_ to unsubscribe? Is there any problem in just hanging around
until the list just goes feet in the air?

Mike

Jonathan White <Jw4@bolton.ac.uk>
26/11/98 16:49

Please respond to FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk

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Subject:  Re: Last Post

> one i just did (1630 GMT 26/11/1998) says 179 now - we've lost 13
there
> may be a slowdown at the end as me, john atkins and other
It's an obvious question but if you lot are all waiting to be the last person
on, aren't you all going to be here forever?

               TTFN
                    Jon
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> At 12:17 27/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
There's no direct reason to now. Once the list gets put into stasis you
shouldn't see any more messages from it anyway. It's not very neat to leave a
sub to a dead mailing list though, or am I being anal?

                        TTFN
                                Jon

> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Jonathan White wrote:

being subbed to a list when it dies is dangerous - you get a peek
through into the place where lists go after they die. some people stay on
lists until the final moment, but if you look too directly into the Beyond,
you are changed forever. that's what happened to Bester in B5, anyway.

Tom

> Thomas Anderson wrote:

Actually, it sounds like fun.  (8-)

J.

> At 17:25 27/11/98 +0000, you wrote:

Careful, some of us over here are STILL waiting to see the last five episodes
thanks to TNT pandering to Millions of Americans rather than a small bunch of
B5 fanatics in Ireland and Britain.. I wish they'd get their priorities right!

> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Niall Gilsenan wrote:

ee lad, i'm in the same boat as you - check my domain name! in fact, i
have not seen a single episode (or for that matter, a single tv programme,
except for one episode of Xena: warrior princess, which has put me off tv for
life) since the start of term. i refer to an episode ages and ages ago where
bester scans someone as they lie dying.

Tom

> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Jonathan White wrote:

Cool! We can determine if there really is a Big ListServ in the Sky! The
Beyond doesn't scare me much...people do, sometimes, but not the Universe...

Well, this is it--I'll be unsubbing as soon as this message hits my
inbox. Bye! It's been fun. I'll try to get in touch as soon as I