Why is the Initiative roll in step 3 instead of step 2 in the Turn Sequence?
The Aft arc is mentioned in the Combat section, but no mention of arcs in
general?
Movement: you use Speed and Velocity, you should probably stick to one term,
prefereably Speed. We know what they mean and are the same, but we're not
"newbies".
Putting in a second weapon system, say Pulse Torpedo, would probably generate
a little more interest for a new person as it shows at least two weapons
systems. I know you're trying to keep it to one page of rules.
Looks pretty good, otherwise.
Glen
> bail9672@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Why is the Initiative roll in step 3 instead of step 2 in the Turn
I wrote this in 2001, so I don't recall. Either because that's the way it is
in FT (don't know...my copy has snuck off again) or because I didn't want
anyone confused about movement being simultaneous.
> The Aft arc is mentioned in the Combat section, but no mention of arcs
Under "Beam Weapons"
> Movement: you use Speed and Velocity, you should probably stick to one
Could change that if need be. Actually velocity and speed *aren't*
quite the same -- speed only has magnitude, velocity also has direction
(so the ending velocity is Speed 12, Direction 4).
> Putting in a second weapon system, say Pulse Torpedo
I wanted it too but I couldn't squeeze it into a single page. Adrian
volunteered to do graphics and layout after recuperating from ECC, in which
case we might get get another paragraph in. Bear in mind, though,
that some people still haven't recovered from last ECC -- for instance,
I understand Jerry still flinches if you say "Mint Jelly!"
***
Movement: you use Speed and Velocity, you should probably stick to one term,
prefereably Speed. We know what they mean and are the same, but we're not
"newbies".
***
Wouldn't one of those geeky physics-type pop up and yell 'No they
aren't!'
and start blithering about vectors and scalars? Not me; I was a humanities
major.
***
Putting in a second weapon system, say Pulse Torpedo, would probably generate
a little more interest for a new person as it shows at least two weapons
systems. I know you're trying to keep it to one page of rules.
***
I think the idea was to keep all the good stuff in the pay-for-play
book.
First, you have to ask Jon. ;->=
The_Beast
***
Could change that if need be. Actually velocity and speed *aren't*
quite the same -- speed only has magnitude, velocity also has direction
(so the ending velocity is Speed 12, Direction 4).
***
See, I told you so! ;->=
Sorry, Chris; didn't know you were about, or I wouldn't have tried to do the
answer.
The_Beast
> Doug Evans wrote:
<grin> A geeky physics type with an English degree... no wonder I'm warped.
> Sorry, Chris; didn't know you were about, or I wouldn't have tried to
I'm taking a break from writing up FMA Sheep Characters.
*whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *smite* *smite*
*smite* *smite* *smite* *smite* *smite* *smite*
Bad Laserlight!
*whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack*
:-)
Brendan 'Neath Southern Skies
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> *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack* *whack*
*sniff* Now, Brendan. *sniff*
I didn't get a character either, and you don't see me getting all postal...
The_Beast
Saves on the body count at work...
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> Laserlight wrote:
> I'm taking a break from writing up FMA Sheep Characters.
I will now snigger uncontrollably.
> Yeah, I suspect that's going to be a recurring theme this weekend.
Which you seem to relish...
As the Scot, attending his first American Baseball game, on being informed
that the player, without hitting the baseball, would walk, because he 'had
four balls', stood up and yelled,
'Ach, man, and walk with pride!'
The_Beast
> Doug Evans wrote:
> Yeah, I suspect that's going to be a recurring theme this weekend.
Assuming Adrian doesn't actually bring a shotgun, I figure I won't need to
change my name and move to an unspecified country in another hemisphere until,
oh, sometime Monday morning. Loads of time.
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:06:08PM -0500, Laserlight wrote:
> I understand Jerry still flinches if you say "Mint Jelly!"
The light, the terrible bright light...
<twitch>
R
> Laserlight wrote:
> Assuming Adrian doesn't actually bring a shotgun, I figure I won't
There's a scenario in this somewhere...
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:06:08PM -0500, Laserlight wrote:
> Roger Burton West wrote:
Oh yes, and Roger is still trying to claim 1024 pints of beer as medical
treatment at the White Horse Pub^h^h^h Psychotherapy Centre.
> Chris wrote:
> The Anglo-Scots
> Humph. No Allan McCajun this time? (Not that there was ever an Allan
See Chris? Once again, the masses, including moi, clammering for immortality.
Course, I figured you might have a great, shaggy wandering 'monster', with a
taste for mutton, simply known as Beast.
And, I made a joke about a Scot, and not a comment from Allan. He WAS
distracted...
> And you spelled "Edinburgh" wrong... (It looks like it's pronounced
Proving a Scot's thrift; you get more word then you spell, while the English
give you a place names like Leicestershire and Worcestershire...
The_Beast
> Doug wrote:
> And, I made a joke about a Scot, and not a comment from Allan. He WAS
I laughed, but I thought the joke didn't need comment. *L*
> >And you spelled "Edinburgh" wrong... (It looks like it's pronounced
Not to mention weirdnesses like "St. John" being pronounced "sin-jin".
Of course Scotland has it's fair share of strange place names, but they aren't
so much "overly endowed" with letters as they are hard for the
non-Scot to pronounce, like Drumnadrochit and Auchterarder.
For what it's worth, my wife (an American) thinks that the British
Commonwealth uses too many letters in its spellings, anyway. She's always
commenting on all the extra vowels used in British and Canadian spelling.
> Allan Goodall wrote:
> For what it's worth, my wife (an American) thinks that the British
Whilst of course the Americans take out the correct vowel and leave the wrong
one in, armor instead of armur, color instead of colur. This just goes to show
that that all English speaking nations have their own, perfectly good,
individual ways of butchering the language. Which is as it should be.
> Doug wrote:
> Proving a Scot's thrift; you get more word then you spell, while the
At least we arn't as bad as the Welsh... But this ties into what Allan's wife
says about too many vowels etc in British English, we have 54 main dialects
(without all the sub dialects)in England alone to cater for in our spelling. I
think the extra letters were thrown in to keep all parties happy. And I've met
English people who pronounce Gloucestershire as
Glow-cest-er-shire instead of Gloss-te-sher.
And as for the Tasmanian pronounciation of Launceston, it makes my Cornish
blood boil!
Regards,
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:45:11PM -0000, Matt Tope wrote:
That's certainly the way it's intended. FT2 made this unclear by having the
"separate FCs for torps" rule; these days I think it can be taken to be "one
FC per ship target, one FC per system target for needle beams".
Thanks for the clarification on that Roger,
Cheers,
Matt Tope
[quoted original message omitted]
> At least we arn't as bad as the Welsh...
With a name like Evans, you don't think I have a clue? ;->=
However, it was Allan's
'Of course Scotland has it's fair share of strange place names, but they
aren't so much "overly endowed" with letters as they are hard for the
non-Scot to pronounce, like Drumnadrochit and Auchterarder.'
comment that made me wince a bit. Welsh seems to use a heck of a lot letters,
keeping most in the pronouncing.
> Not to mention weirdnesses like "St. John" being pronounced "sin-jin".
Oh, thank you! I'd heard sin-jin on TV, and, in context, assumed it was
actually Indian, picked up in 'the Raj'.
I love things sent us by the BBC, but it keeps rubbing my nose in just how
parochial I am, even as to my heritage. It's worse on the other side; I have
to take DW in English.
Best consider breaking this off as meandering OT, or we'll start looking at
how German does with words what Welsh and Scotish do with letters. And then
there are those Russian paragraphs... ;->=
The_Beast
***
That's certainly the way it's intended. FT2 made this unclear by having the
"separate FCs for torps" rule; these days I think it can be taken to be "one
FC per ship target, one FC per system target for needle beams".
***
Oh, bother!
I was going to include this in the last note so it would have SOME GZG
content. Anyway, the phrase in the quotation, if it can be shoehorned into FT
Lite, is the kind of thing that gives a good idea of the system, while
piquing interest. 'What is that Needle Beam anyway?' ;->=
The_Beast
> Matt wrote:
> Whilst of course the Americans take out the correct vowel and leave
Given the pronunciation of the word, shouldn't it be spelled "kuller"?
*L*
> And as for the Tasmanian pronounciation of Launceston, it makes my
You should hear the way they pronounce words down here in Louisiana. It was
settled by the French (from Quebec, actually), but the pronunciations have
changed quite markedly. Part of this is because Cajun French is derived from
17th century French, as is Quebecois French. Part of the strange pronunciation
is just being separated from the mother country.
For instance, the suburb of New Orleans (the proper pronunciation of New
Orleans is either "New Or-lins", shortened to "Nawlins" by a lot of
locals, or "New Or-lee-ans"; it is _never_ "New Or-leens") known as
Metairie is pronounced "Mat-er-ee". This is the same country where the
football player with the name "Fav-ruh" (spelled Favre) is pronounced
"Farv". There's a town here in northeast Louisiana called "Delhi". It's
pronounced "Del-high".
Some of the place names have interesting spellings because they are Indian
words spelled by French settlers. The parish (like a county) that
I live in is Ouachita, which is pronounced "Wash-i-tah". If Jon does
another set of NAC ships based on Indian tribal names, like the Tacoma, I'm
going to give him a bunch of southern tribes, like Ouachita, Tensas
(pronounced Ten-saw) and Natchez to use.
> PS- I take it Grasers can share fire controls with regular beams and
Yes, that's the intention. Things were messier when p-torps required a
fire control of their own, but Jon has officially removed that requirement.
Now you need a single fire control per enemy target (a ship
if it's a beam, p-torp, graser, etc., or a system if it's a needle
beam).
> Allan Goodall wrote:
> Given the pronunciation of the word, shouldn't it be spelled "kuller"?
*L*
Re the whole English pronounciation I hope the NAC finds a way round it or it
could result in some serious misunderstandings...
Two NAC soldiers from seperate battalions meet up, one is from a US ethnic
colony, the other from a Brit ethnic colony, the Brit one says,
"'Ere mate, could I bum a fag?"
As for the Americans reaction, well from what I understand of the US
translation of the above phrase, could be anything from abject horror to
fisticuffs.
On a more serious note this has happend in the past. During the Korean war,
specifically the Battle of Imjin, a British liason offficer asked for air
support and when asked how serious the situation was by an American officer
replied along the lines of "A tad sticky old chap".
The US officer, understandly enough, failed to realise that "A tad sticky"
translated in this case as "We are out numbered 50 to 1."
Cheers,
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:56:05PM -0000, Matt Tope wrote:
> The US officer, understandly enough, failed to realise that "A tad
Gosh.
Must have been low on ammunition or something to use language that strong.
R
> Glen Bailey wrote:
> Why is the Initiative roll in step 3 instead of step 2 in the Turn
Because FT Lite doesn't include either fighters or missiles, which means
that you don't need to determine the initiative until you start shooting.
> I think it should mention that a fractional part of an inch of a range
Fractional mu of ranges are not rounded. 12.3mu is "more than 12mu away";
11.9mu is not.
> Movement: you use Speed and Velocity, you should probably stick to one
"Speed" and "Velocity" do *not* mean the same thing. As far as I can see FT
Lite uses both terms correctly.
***
> Allan Goodall wrote:
> For the record, I thought the official answer was that you don't round.
If
> you're going at a speed of 9 mu, you move 4.5 mu in the first half of
This is indeed the official answer.
Regards,
> Matt wrote:
> "'Ere mate, could I bum a fag?"
It wouldn't be that bad, because the average American has never heard the term
"bum" used to mean your "bottom". The more common word in the U.S. is "butt",
or the other name for a donkey (no, I'm not being prudish, I just don't want
to spell it in case the message gets intercepted by spam filters).
Some Americans might be more horrified if they heard someone talking about
"fag butts", but that's a different story...
> On a more serious note this has happend in the past. During the Korean
I suspect that the problems still exist, but they aren't as bad as they used
to be. I think, due to the output from Hollywood, that Brits are more likely
to understand American popular culture and idioms than they used to be (and
more so than the other way around). Canadians, also part of the NAC, may act
as a good "go between). Of course Canadians add their own culture and words,
but this appears to be a smaller number than the words and phrases they have
in common with Britain and the U.S.
All of this talk about English reminded me of one of my all time favorite
quotes:
English doesn't borrow from other languages. English lures other languages
down dark alleys, whacks them over the head, and goes through
thier pockets for loose grammer. --geoff the barfly.
> Whilst of course the Americans take out the correct vowel and leave the
G'day,
> And as for the Tasmanian pronounciation of Launceston, it
Hey we equal opportunity word mutilators down here, give us a perfectly good
name and we'll make sure it bears no resemblance to the orginal;)
Cheers
Bad news, we agree about Kay-row.
But then French or German words spoken in Saint Louis borders on linguistics
genocide...
Lemay - Despite the well know USAF general - Lee-May
44 - Farty Far
Spoede - Spade-e
Gravois - Grav-voy
But you should hear them try Spanish...
Roll your "r's" with an Umlat (spelling is optional in California where I grew
up...) and you get the idea...
Gracias, Glenn
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:31:07 -0600 Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
writes:
> Hey, it's not always the fault of us hicks.
> agoodall@att.net wrote:
Yes, I know -- if his parents had spelled it correctly, he'd be proud to
use his full name, but since they didn't, he had to make it "Eddie".
> Doug Evans wrote:
> See Chris? Once again, the masses, including moi, clammering for
You'll be there, I already have the Potted Plant mini for you: "The Beets".
Be careful what you wish for.