On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 19:23:47 GMT, Charles Taylor <nerik@monkslode.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> On a (slightly) related topic, does anyone here remember a modelling
For a few years at GenCon, there was a group playing Star Wars games. The
fighters they used were Micro Machines Star Wars fighters. The starships were
scaled appropriately. The stands put the ships at about waist high. (I
recently came across some pictures from those games.) They weren't using FT,
but I always thought that FT would have made a better game.
There were also games of Ogre at GenCon with 25mm figures for the infantry,
and all the other vehicles scaled appropriately.
I always wanted to play a DS2 game using 25mm figures and a large school yard
or something. Now I'm thinking I might some day play FMA with some of my
1/6
scale figures...
Allan,
When you want to give it a go let me know. I would like to do the same. Maybe
ECC? Course the whole room would have to be used <G>
Bob
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Bob and Allan - Count me in. Even though I've started to convert over
to 15mm, I've still got a good bit of 25 stuff around.
-Ted
> Allan,
> Allan Goodall wrote:
[...]
> I always wanted to play a DS2 game using 25mm figures and a large
Ya know, it's funny that you say this, because I've been gently tossing the
idea around about doing a 15mm DSII event at ECC one year. I mentioned it at
ECC IV, and Jon D asked (after seeing my new 15mm vehicles from Brigade and
DLD) if I was still seriously thinking about this.
Perhaps one day...yes. :-)
> When you want to give it a go let me know. I would like to do the
Sorry, Bob, your post was missed in the huge volume of stuff these last few
days.
I can't guarantee a trip to ECC next year. However, I will definitely keep it
in mind. Most of my action figures are still in storage, but I have enough for
a half decent Normandy game (I may be a little light on Allies,
though...).
No vehicles, but if using FMAS we wouldn't really need vehicles. Have to
figure out a way to do terrain that is portable!
> When you want to give it a go let me know. I would like to do the
*Smacks forehead*
Sorry, I was thinking of something else, a 1/6 scale FMAS game! *L*
I have plenty of 25mm that I could use for infantry. Vehicles, though, would
be a problem. We'd have to find enough vehicles to do a half decent DS2 game.
I'm guessing that we'd end up with an infantry heavy game, but that's not such
a bad thing.
I have vehicles for two platoons in two different armies (Japanese and NSL). I
also have a gunship and four VTOL transports. I'm sure we'd maybe, pulling
resources, have enough for an interesting large scale DS2 game.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:16:49 -0500, "nated@naxera.com"
<nated@naxera.com> wrote:
Indy frothed:
> I've been gently tossing
Indy, you're going the wrong way. What you want to head towards is 6mm FMAS.
That way you can put a full sized starship on the table (although at ECC you
should be able to put a CH on a table in 15mm).
Well I am all for 1/6 FMA at the next ECC. Maybe we can have a session
of "GIANT GAMES THAT SHOULD NOT BE PLAYED <G>"
Bob
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> --- Bob Makowsky <rmakowsky@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'll put together an NRE Skutatoi Turma[1], write the scenario so they are the
main effort of the divisional deliberate defense, and let anyone who has minis
hurl them into its teeth. That should last about a week.
Allan,
For terrain I am thinking Cardboard boxes for buildings. (I am getting ready
to move and will save them when I do). Packing foam (the stuff that keeps
expensive computer hardware not crash around in the cardboard boxes) covered
with army blankets for hills. Trees are easy if we can get enough decorative
shrubs <G>.
I should have my stuff unpacked by then and if Los is back he can add
another bunch of figures. I would love to do a Counter-Terrorist OP or
the
1/6 Can Am FMAS.
Fun,
Bob
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> John Atkinson wrote:
> --- Bob Makowsky <rmakowsky@yahoo.com> wrote:
Let's see.... 1/6th scale.... so a 6'' human would be 1'' (Trying to
picture here, not familiar with the scale).... is this comparable in scale to
the REAL G.I. Joe figures of old?
2B^2
> Bob Makowsky wrote:
1/6? Nah. 1/1. Everyone gets an FRS radio and a radio/laser range
finder. Don't forget to bring large dice.:)
> Jaime Tiampo wrote:
> 1/6? Nah. 1/1. Everyone gets an FRS radio and a radio/laser range
Time for you to start singing "Too much time on my hands." ;-)
2B^2
PS Got your mail. haven't deposited it yet, but will this weekend, and you and
tomb will be getting yor parcels ASAP.
Bob Makowsky
> That is exactly the scale and they are welcome along with the 21st
Cool. Now if only I had any or lived in ECC Range.
2B^2
That is exactly the scale and they are welcome along with the 21st Century,
Dragon, Elite Forces etc <G>
Bob
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The Bruinswick has a nice courtyard all in Mars red. It is even has hexagonal
bricks! Could be a little cold however (pseudo simulate Mars temprature?).
-----
Brian Bell
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:10:09 -0400, "Bob Makowsky" <rmakowsky@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I should have my stuff unpacked by then and if Los is back he can add
I have, I think, two Navy Seals. Maybe three, but I thought two. I also have
two SAS (Nigel and the limited edition Nigel). I have the female NY Police
Sniper (she looks vaguely like someone I know... *grin*) and the Delta Force
guy. That's all I have for counter-terrorist. I do have the female
Vietnamese figure. Most of my figures are WWII, though I have 6 Civil War
figures.
On the other hand, I bought some 40-odd US special forces figures from
Nic at Eureka. These are for a specific FMA scenario. The scenario in question
will involve them going into a cave complex against Greys (think standard UFO
aliens). I bought the Greys from Nic, too. However, this is a Delta Green
scenario, so there is something else in the cave, too. (I won't spoil it for
anyone playing DG who doesn't know the secret of the Greys.)
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:23:33 -0800, "Brian Bilderback"
> <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Let's see.... 1/6th scale.... so a 6'' human would be 1'' (Trying to
Yes, though nobody would use GI Joe figures. They suck compared to the high
quality figures from Dragon and Sideshow Toys.
Note: I have several GI Joes. I have the Marine Sniper (forgot to put that in
the list!), the D-Day Salute figure, their Collector's Club Confederate
and Union soldiers and Generals Grant and Lee, and their WWI US pilot.
However, I
got the sniper when GI Joes were being re-released. If I were to do it
over, I'd skip the ACW figures and go for the ones from Sideshow toys (I have
Berdan's Sharpshooter and 57th Virginia figure), I'd buy the Dragon sniper in
stead (far, far, FAR better camouflage stuff), but I would still get the Grant
and Lee figures.
Note to TomB: Sideshow makes a WWI Highlander! Thought I'd mention
that...
Oh, darn... Just went to Sideshow... They are taking preorders for a limited
edition Confederate Bugler and... a 146th NY Zouave! Where's that credit
card???
From: Bob Makowsky [mailto:rmakowsky@yahoo.com]
> Well I am all for 1/6 FMA at the next ECC. Maybe we can have a session
"A Grey Day on Carter Island". Starting at GZGECC (February), finishing at
Cold Wars (April). Players get 72 hours leave during the game but must
coordinate with the rest of their team.
Allan Goodall
> Yes, though nobody would use GI Joe figures. They suck compared to the
Depends on one's budget. Are the GI Joes cheaper?
There's a GI Joe Ranger SAW gunner who looks pretty cool.....
2B^2 (Or am I 3B^2? Burger AND Bell both preceeded me, I believe....)
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:18:02 -0800, "Brian Bilderback"
> <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Depends on one's budget. Are the GI Joes cheaper?
Okay, yes, GI Joes are cheaper. They were going for around $40 Canadian while
Dragon was going for around C$60 to C$70, depending on the set. I'm very fond
of Sideshow, though, which is around C$50 for a figure in the Dragon class.
Hasbro's GI Joes have gotten a bit better... they had to, compared to the
competition.
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Brian, you're not within range of the ECC but you are within range of the WEST
COAST CON!
The GZG West Coast Con 2 will happen this year (baring Uncle Sam activating
and deploying me).
Are you with us or against us, you San Diegian?!
-Ted (who's going back to El Ay in less that a month!)
> That is exactly the scale and they are welcome along with the 21st
> From: "nated@naxera.com" <nated@naxera.com>
> Brian, you're not within range of the ECC but you are within range of
And what fine Left Coast Mayhem do you have planned, my friend?
> The GZG West Coast Con 2 will happen this year (baring Uncle Sam
Which Branch are you?
> Are you with us or against us, you San Diegian?!
Depends on where/when/how much. No longer in SD though, now back home
in God's Oregon.
3B^2
> -Ted (who's going back to El Ay in less that a month!)
My deepest sympathy.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:51:59 -0500, "nated@naxera.com"
<nated@naxera.com> wrote:
> Brian, you're not within range of the ECC but you are within range of
I wish there were enough of us for a Gulf Coast Con! (South Coat
Con...?)
> On 14-Mar-02 at 11:36, Allan Goodall (agoodall@att.net) wrote:
<nated@naxera.com>
> wrote:
I would go and might be able to scare up a few more.
If its near the coast, I might be able to convince my wife to take a "family
vacation" there to coinside with the convention. 8^)
-----
Brian Bell
> Allan Goodall wrote:
<nated@naxera.com>
> wrote:
Just for the record, our ECC I gathering had a "mere" 13 people - 8 of
them Canadian! I'm sure you can scrounge up a dozen people out of the ol'
swamps down there.
> John Atkinson wrote:
> > Well I am all for 1/6 FMA at the next ECC. Maybe we
You have enough figures and models to set up an entire mech brigade in
1/6
scale (12" figures)?!?
Yikes. I can only do that in 1/300...
Allan,
Sounds good. I have about 6 Police including that same sniper and an
emergency services guy (entry specialist), 1 SAS, 2-3 Terrorists (2
female).
I can redress some WW-II as terrorists. I think about 12 on 5-6 or so
would work well for an entry and hostage recovery. For hostages I can raid
Talia's Barbie box for up to about 30 scared women <G>.
If you really think we can do something like this lets take it off-list
and work out some scenario stuff.
Bob
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Not to start a Holy War,
Hasbro GI Joes have been completely outclassed by a number of manufacturers.
They are aware of this and the latest releases are getting better. Still not
the top but they are much better than their earlier stuff. Course the
GI Joes are still somewhat designed for kids while the Dragon/Elite
Forces/21st Century are for collectors.
Do Not Call them DOLLS! <G>
Bob
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:33:09 -0400, "Bob Makowsky" <rmakowsky@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Course the
Do NOT forget Sideshow Toys! I have two of their Civil War figures and they
are excellent. They are pretty close to Dragon in quality (better than 21st
Century, anyway) though not quite as articulate. Their clothing is bang on.
The way they did the 57th Virginia's felt hat is excellent. All the gear is
weathered. They have another set (including a member of the Iron Brigade!)
out, with a third set coming. Oh... and they have a 1:6 scale cannon, perhaps
a 12lb Napoleon (though I'm not positive about the cannon type)!
Sideshow also makes a WWI range. Their other figures are movie and TV based.
They make 1:6 scale Buffy The Vampire Slayer figures, and... drool... Monty
Python and the Holy Grail!
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:22:39 -0400, "Bob Makowsky" <rmakowsky@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> If you really think we can do something like this lets take it off-list
I'll think about it, but the big question mark will be me being able to attend
ECC in the first place. I won't know that for a while...
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (as a newbie it's hard to sip from
the gzg-l fire hose), but the HMGS have run a couple games with the 1/6
figures at Fall-In!, there Gettysburg con. The pics I've seen are really
impressive. It had entrenched ww2 German forces against a us force fighting
through a farm with vineyard and a small village. I think the play area was
something like 40'x20'. The guys went nuts with very impressive buildings, and
they action shots were cool because the figures could be appropriately posed.
I don't even want to think about the cash outlay, they had most of the
1/6 vehicles to accompany the troops.
I had so much fun playing FMA for the first time in Ghostbusters that I had
been toying with developing a JumboFMA scenario using modified GI Joe (the
modern ~1/8(?) type). FMA at least limits the number of figures you'd
have to customize to an SF universe.
Regards, Martin Connell
Allan,
Ok well keep it in mind. I think we could grab the center of the con room for
a morning game.
Bob
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> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:43:11 EST, MxConnell@aol.com wrote:
> Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (as a newbie it's hard to sip
> figures at Fall-In!, there Gettysburg con.
I have pictures of one of the games at Fall In! 2000.
> I think the play area was
The size is about right. The buildings were simple. They were wood "shells"
that opened up in back. They had cut outs for windows and doors. Now that I
think of it, a little while with a jigsaw, some plywood (painted when done)
and some hinges could make a reasonable village that lay flat.
The cost outlay? Well, you're talking about US$40 for the Dragon figures they
used, each, plus about US$150 to $200 for the Stuart tanks. I think they had a
German tank which was made by a company that does custom creations. I think
that runs you about US$200.
Personally, I'd have left out the tanks. The force was too small. A purely
infantry game in FMAS would be cool.
> --- Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:
> You have enough figures and models to set up an
The train has left the station...
I meant in 1/300, but the heading was "Giant Games
That Should Not Be Played". And letting me run a deliberate defense with a
brigade would definitely qualify, given the number of minis involved, the size
of the attacking force (division+) and the area it
would take up.
> --- Allan Goodall <agoodall@att.net> wrote:
> I wish there were enough of us for a Gulf Coast Con!
Uh, Don and Myself and probably any other persons residing in Texas would
certaintly show up.
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:35:43 -0800 (PST), John Atkinson
> <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uh, Don and Myself and probably any other persons
Hmmm... This is starting to look promising...
> At 09:58 15/03/02 -0400, Bob wrote:
Bob, Allan
Perhaps you guys should check out this site, lot's of gear for 1/6th
scale United States Colonial Marines.
http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm.html
Cheers
Derek,
I have seen this site. Good stuff but I am on too tight a budget right now to
do any large conversions.
Bob
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> Bob Makowsky wrote:
:-)
You're making a big assumption as to which room we'll be in for next year.
Thnigs are in the works and we'll keep you posted.
> Bob Makowsky wrote:
If there are 6 guys holding a bed, *I* am not taking it from them!
Jon,
No assumptions, I stand waiting to see where we will be. At worse we could run
it up in the hotel.
You 6 guys hold this bed. You 10 go and take it!
Bob
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> Jon,
Ah, the opportunities for misunderstandings...Just make sure we're not
And why would that be bad?
Magic
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