KV Language

11 posts ยท Apr 1 2000 to Apr 2 2000

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:56:55 -0500

Subject: KV Language

I've unaccountably misplaced the list of KV syllables and their meanings that
someone came up with. Directions?
--Chris  DeBoe

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:49:48 -0800

Subject: Re: KV Language

> Laserlight wrote:

<snip>

(as soon as I can make up some 'Kra'Vak' sounding names).

<Big Snip>

Here is the name scheme, we use.

First Half:

RA = Little, Small VA = Heavy, Large VO = Lurker LU = Sneak, Hider KA =
Raider, Thief DA = Fast One, Swift One DI = Little Death SI = Rover, Walker KR
= Person (s) TI = Battle, War KO = Assault, Attack LO = Great Death YU = King,
Ruler DO = Follower

Opitional third letter;

A = Of O = From I = On U = To

Second Half:

First letter;

S = Sliver D = Deadly T = Dark K = Armoured B = Silent V = Sorrow

Second & Third letter;

AK = Flyer EK,OK = Ship, Boat AS = Landmass, Mountain OL = Monster AN =
Mother, of Mother

Examples:

Ra'San fighters = Light Sliver of Mother Va'San fighter = Heavy Sliver of
Mother Lu'Dak Intruder = Sneak Deadly Flyer Ka'Tak Striker = Raider Dark Flyer
Da'Kak Frigate = Swift one Armoured Flyer Di'Tok Destroyer = Little death Dark
Ship Vo'Bok Hunter Cruiser = Lurker Silent Ship Si'Tek Patrol Cruiser = Rover
Dark Ship Va'Dok Heavy Cruiser = Heavy Deadly Ship Ti'Dak BattleCruiser = War
Deadly Flyer Ko'Vol Battleship = Attack Sorrow Monster Lo'Vok
BattleDreadnought = Great death Sorrow Ship Yu'Kas SuperDreadnought = Ruler
Armoured Mountain Ko'San Fleet Carrier = Attack Sliver Mother Do'San Tactial
Carrier = Follower Sliver Mother

Ok, I am not a English Major, so don't flamme me because it doesn't follow
known rules.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:58:32 PST

Subject: Re: KV Language

So Kra'Vak, in Kra'Vak, Means Person(s) of Sorrow Flyer? Hmmm... I wonder
how this self-definition of theirs fits in with their psychology (IF I'm

reading it right).

Brian B

----Original Message Follows----
From: John Leary <john_t_leary@pronetusa.net>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: KV Language
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:49:48 -0800

First Half:

KR = Person (s)

Opitional third letter;

A = Of

Second Half:

First letter;

V = Sorrow

Second & Third letter;

AK = Flyer

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:19:52 -0800

Subject: Re: KV Language

> Brian Bilderback wrote:

This could also translate to: Angels of Death, People of oppression in flight
(That's right, somebody really
bad and nasty is chasing down the Kra'Vak.   Chew on that for
a while!)

Bye for now,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:07:26 -0500

Subject: Re: KV Language

> Brian Bilderback wrote:
Hmmm... I wonder
> how this self-definition of theirs fits in with their

KRA'VAK: Literal translation: "People of the Sorrow Killer "

ZHA'VAK: Literal translation: "World of the Sorrow Killer " -
the Kra'Vak Homeworld.

That's [OFFICIAL] from St^3 Jon's post a while ago (and memorialized at
http://members.xoom.com/gzg_l/xeno/kravak_psyche.html )

The grammar is a little loose, of course, so it's going to be interesting to
see if that means "Sorrow is the Killer" or "Sorrow Because of the Killer" or
even "Sorrow Has Been Killed".
I lean towards the last version and so my Kra'Vak subclan-to-be
is going to be from Happy Valley, or something to that effect. Just imagine
Ewok Predators.

Yeah, okay, so my subclan is a bunch of heretics. Feel free to
send missionaries--we can always use the salvage...

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:28:14 -0500

Subject: Re: KV Language

> This could also translate to : Angels of Death,

But it's sooooo predictable.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:59:31 PST

Subject: Re: KV Language

In that case, either A) Mr.Leary's word list is inaccurate or B) The Kra'Vak
language gets really complicated, because the second root can change meaning
depending on what original word it came from, because the meaning I put forth
was directly from his list, but if the "'Vak" means something different,
things get all crazy....

Brian B

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From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: KV Language
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:07:26 -0500

> Brian Bilderback wrote:
Hmmm... I wonder
> how this self-definition of theirs fits in with their

KRA'VAK: Literal translation: "People of the Sorrow Killer "

ZHA'VAK: Literal translation: "World of the Sorrow Killer " -
the Kra'Vak Homeworld.

That's [OFFICIAL] from St^3 Jon's post a while ago (and memorialized at
http://members.xoom.com/gzg_l/xeno/kravak_psyche.html )

The grammar is a little loose, of course, so it's going to be interesting to
see if that means "Sorrow is the Killer" or "Sorrow Because of the Killer" or
even "Sorrow Has Been Killed".
I lean towards the last version and so my Kra'Vak subclan-to-be
is going to be from Happy Valley, or something to that effect. Just imagine
Ewok Predators.

Yeah, okay, so my subclan is a bunch of heretics. Feel free to
send missionaries--we can always use the salvage...

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:34:48 +0100

Subject: Re: KV Language

> Laserlight wrote:

In naming the KV ships in FB2, we've actually used a slightly modified version
of this list, at some time in the near future I'll try to post the modified
version for everyone to look at. I tried to confirm via the list a
few weeks back about who originally wrote this up, but no-one answered
so I couldn't put a confirmed credit in the book (the list above, though from
Steven Arrowsmith, just says "this is what we use", so I didn't know if he

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 09:36:29 -0700

Subject: Re: KV Language

> Brian Bilderback wrote:
...Snip...JTL
> Yeah, okay, so my subclan is a bunch of heretics. Feel free to

Naturally, if you were not a bunch of heretics, you would be one of the ruling
clans.

Wa'Kon-D'rk
Commanding battle Sq. 17 of the D'rk Seventh of the third order. In service of
the L'Mirkas

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:05:26 PDT

Subject: Re: KV Language

No, I didn't write that, someone else wrote it in response to something else
I said....

BBack

----Original Message Follows----
From: John Leary <john_t_leary@pronetusa.net>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: KV Language
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 09:36:29 -0700

> Brian Bilderback wrote:
...Snip...JTL
> Yeah, okay, so my subclan is a bunch of heretics. Feel free to

Naturally, if you were not a bunch of heretics, you would be one of the ruling
clans.

Wa'Kon-D'rk
Commanding battle Sq. 17 of the D'rk Seventh of the third order. In service of
the L'Mirkas

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:21:23 -0400

Subject: Re: KV Language

Brian Bi said:

> No, I didn't write that, someone else wrote it in response to

I was the one whose KV subclan is heretical. I've noticed that fairly often
I've gotten credited with ideas that I didn't
originate--and my name has been omitted from one or two of the
good ideas I've had--simply because people are sloppy at
snipping. One of the few bad points of this list.