KFOR in Kosovo (was UN)

4 posts ยท Mar 21 2001 to Mar 22 2001

From: Los <los@c...>

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:28:57 -0500

Subject: Re: KFOR in Kosovo (was UN)

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From: Los <los@c...>

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:55:41 -0500

Subject: Re: KFOR in Kosovo (was UN)

Well since the military are doing the job of police in most cases there's
plenty of overlap, but one of the main UN functions comes from UNCIVPOL
(United Nations CIVilian POLice) made up of UN nation-member police
seconded to UN they do all the police work and will help get local police
forces back on their feet, they also work with ICITAP (International Criminal
Investigation Training and Assistance Program which actually runs Police
academies in UN mandated zones.

Los
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From: Barclay, Tom <tomb@b...>

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:12:06 -0500

Subject: KFOR in Kosovo (was UN)

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: UN

> - --- "Barclay, Tom" <tomb@bitheads.com> wrote:

> US troops tend to be the "big boy" in the area, and

Unless it's NATO--the KFOR commander is an Italian, or
at least was most of the time I was there.
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Hmmm. I spoke with my friend who trains at the CF Peace
Support Training Centre - he teaches peackeepers and MOs to
go on NATO and UN missions (including people from other countries like
Albania, USSR, Poland, etc. etc.).

He said when US forces are involved, there tend to be two command structures.
The "force" command and "their" command. They tend to escalate orders from
foreign nationals they don't agree with to be addressed by their command
structure. This might be good sense
or it might be just reticence to be under non-US command. Probably
a little from column A and a little from column B.

I also asked him about the unity of UN forces and their ability
to select units/gear. He laughed. They get what countries send, though
they can ask for stuff. As for command, each operates under its own internal
restrictions (plus cultural biases plus individual ambitions or fears). Also
he brought up the huge logistical issues of running large joint operations
with different troops trained differently using different kit and vehicles and
operating in different languages.

Sectorization is probably the only sane way to run things. And there have been
plenty of internal cooperation problems between nation's forces
on UN or NATO missions - way more than make the news. He says any
returning peacekeeper can tell you stories (and they do at the PSTC) about the
problems
that such joint-nationality missions entail. They work, but only after a

fashion.

From: Andy Cowell <andy@c...>

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:46:49 -0600

Subject: Re: KFOR in Kosovo (was UN)

> In message <009c01c0b1e9$5b2c4c60$6401a8c0@los450>, "clourenco" writes:

What role does the RCMP play in UN Peacekeeping-- police force, I
would assume, but isn't it a rather military role? Would this be