Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

10 posts ยท Jan 28 2000 to Jan 30 2000

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:57:00 +0000

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> Phillip Atcliffe wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:58:56 -0500 "Izenberg, Noam"

The Jericho is an unreleased battlecruiser model - it's on the Design
Studio page (where I put pictures of new and upcoming stuff). There's a
picture of the unassembled bits of the master, and a CGI pic of roughly what
it'll look like when assembled.

From: Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@u...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:20:37 -0500 (EST)

Subject: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:58:56 -0500 "Izenberg, Noam"
> <Noam.Izenberg@jhuapl.edu> wrote:

[Snip WG questions, which others have answered]

> Noam - thinking about putting said item on his future Jericho

Okay, Noah -- just what _is_ this Jericho thing that you keep referring
to? I looked on the Brigade website, but couldn't find any mention of it. Did
I miss it somehow, or do you know something that I don't?

Phil

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:20:31 -0800

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> Noam - thinking about putting said item on his future Jericho

I would advise against this. Of course, Naom is free to do whatever the heck
he wants to in "his FT universe." However, I'm personally against the
unbalanced systems for FT.

I think that it shows a great deal more ingenuity to do well with creative
combinations of the basics than to rely on the risky (or lucky).

From: Izenberg, Noam <Noam.Izenberg@j...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:14:13 -0500

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@aimnet.com>

> Noam - thinking about putting said item on his future

> I would advise against this. Of course, Naom is free to do whatever

Wave Guns and their like have discussion cycles on this list every several
months. Last time I was looking, the general impression has been that WG's are
much more balanced in the FB system than they were in FT2. "Untested" or or
"Unproved" may be a better description. With the answers to the questions I'd
asked, it's looking less likely I'll want to use a WG (Unless Brian Bell's
additional WG questions have answers that I like...). It just seemed
appropriate to have something like it on that particular ship. Perhaps
someday, Our Friend Jon will fit WG's and Novas back into the 'accpetable'
bestiary of weapons. Or perhaps I'll find something in the FB2 to
adapt...

> I think that it shows a great deal more ingenuity to do well with

It depends what you want to do. Generally I might agree with you, except for 2
things: 1) Here,I wanted to have a ship with a specific feel (based on its
appearance) that none of the 'basics' fits sufficiently; and 2) Sometimes
people like trying to create dynamics not covered in the 'basics'. There's
another cycle (maybe every month or every other month) where new weapons or
other systems get proposed and discussed. I like that a great deal.

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:27:25 -0800

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> I think that it shows a great deal more ingenuity to do well with

I agree that the ship looks quite distinctive, and deserves some thought to
its FT stats.

Have you considered some sort of P-Torp battery or some Class 4 Beams -
I'm just thinking out loud here. I'll have to give it some thought over the
course of the day.

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:32:34 +0000

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> "Izenberg, Noam" wrote:

> From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@aimnet.com>
"Untested" or
> or "Unproved" may be a better description. With the answers to the

My preference for the Jericho (or any other ship that looks like it's carrying
some sort of spinal v.heavy mount) would be an adaptation of the EFSB heavy
beam weapon. This was heavily discussed on the list a while back. I've found
the Nova
/ WG, on the rare occasions I've used them, so bit very hit-or-miss -
charging the weapon can take such a long time that you're unlikely to get more
than one or two shots in except in a large battle, and you effectively have to
design a BC sized vessel around the weapon which can take a substantial part
of a fleet. So, for FT3 future weapons, a mod of the HBW would be my choice.

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:43:14 +0000

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

It's only a BC (mass 94) so I don't think there's enough room for 3
class-4s. My
current design has thrust-6 (which may be overkill, but I think it
deserved to be
a pretty nippy ship) and three 1-arc class-3s as the wing-mounted
weapons.

Tony

> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote:

> >> I think that it shows a great deal more ingenuity to do well with

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:55:27 +1000

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote:

Concur.

From: Izenberg, Noam <Noam.Izenberg@j...>

Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:24:46 -0500

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@aimnet.com>
From: Tony Francis <tony@glassghost.com>

> My preference for the Jericho (or any other ship that looks like it's

I recall some of it. And I think I can agree. Did the HBW max out at 30" or
36"? Was there a general consensus point in that discussion about the weapon's
overall characteristics?

> ...So, for FT3 future weapons, a mod of the HBW would be my

Sounds good to me.

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:52:15 -0800

Subject: Re: Jericho [Was: Idiots' Guide to Wave Guns]

> From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@aimnet.com>

I also like the sound of this.