Its a size thing

2 posts ยท Jan 28 1999 to Jan 28 1999

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:08:28 +1300

Subject: Re: Its a size thing

> Stephen wrote:

One generally accepted convention for points is: 1 point (FT:FB) = 100 Points
(DSII)

An alternative for MASS:Capacity, if you like big aerospace vehicles, is to
use: 1 MASS (FT:FB) = 100 Capacity Points (DSII) This means that aerospace
fighters are about size 12 (DSII).

One alternative, that I prefer, is: 1 MASS (FT:FB) = 50 Capacity Points (DSII)
This means that aerospace fighters are about size 6 (DSII). These aerospace
fighters are big in comparison to most DSII land vehicles, but not as big as
most scoutships in FT:FB. A 6 fighter group massing a total 6 MASS is a
similar point value, size and crew requirements as a 6 MASS scoutship. If it's
assumed that practical land vehicles range from size 1 to size
10, and that practical starships range from 10 MASS to 100+ MASS and are
similar to sea going ships, then most big aerospace vehicles and most
interface landers would fit in the space from size 10 to 10 MASS. So, if it's
assumed that size 10 equates to 1 MASS and size 100 equates to 10 MASS, then 1
MASS holds 50 capacity points and aerospace fighters are about size 6 (DSII).
This also means that 6 MASS could hold the equivalent of: 37 Humvees or jeeps
(size 1), 18 M113 APCs (size 2), 12 Bradley MICVs (size 3), 9 M60 tanks (size
4), 7 M1 tanks (size 5), 6 aerospace fighters (size 6) or 5 big 'mecha (size
7). In practise, even though 37 jeep equivalents fit into the 6
MASS, I would limit the number to 24 size one or sub-size one vehicles,
as the jeep's crew would be more of a concern.

From: Phillip E. Pournelle <pepourne@n...>

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:26:02 -0800

Subject: Re: Its a size thing

> At 02:08 PM 1/28/1999 +1300, you wrote:

Actually this means that the Aerospace fighter in the book is size three
for 15 CC, but to fit inside another object takes up the neccessary 8/5
of
space.  15 * 8/5 = 24.
This means that a single mass cargo space can hold a nice medium tank, one
aerospace fighter or 25 guys in formation. If the guys want a place to sleep,
eat etc then they take up 4 CC. This means a single mass of personnel space
lets you hold 6 guys with reasonable shipboard comfort.

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