ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and Dear Abby.

1 posts ยท Dec 18 2000

From: Mark Sykes <tardis@b...>

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:06:39 +1000

Subject: Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and Dear Abby.

> At 1:06 PM +1000 18/12/2000, Beth Fulton wrote:

...
and incriminated herself

Hope that the momentary slip(S) from your usual splendid prose was due to
concern for the trapped Icebird in Antarctic waters.

BTW I concur that variable speed is the best option. I use an old model train
controller to give a variable speed to an old fixed speed hobby drill. Dremel
are excruciatingly expensive here in the wetlands of Queensland.

Seasons Greetings

MarkS All the way from Gallifrey... Tardis...Actual portal to a virtual world

tardis@rocknet.net.au
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From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and
Dear Abby.
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G'day again,

> and incriminated herself

I go to great lengths to avoid incrimination and promptly drop myself in

it! Last time I try!;)

> Hope that the momentary slip(S)

You're obviously thinking of another Beth Fulton!;)

> was due to concern for the trapped

Oh she'll be out soon, there's an icebreaker on the way and glitches like that
happen a lot.... one of the joys of working in Antarctica;)

Cheers

Beth

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Are there official/semi-official/or downright unofficial SDDs for the UN
ships? They look cool by the way.

--Peter
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Re Dremel
> used mine to good effect with all sorts of materials, although I've

If you cut acrylic with a jig saw, you may find the acrylic melts and welds
back together where you've just cut. We advised people to reduce the speed,
and put some soap or something on the blade to reduce friction. Don't know how
applicable that would be to resin (since I don't know what the "resin"
is...which of 800 kinds of
plastic are we talking about?) but it's a thought--absolutely free,
and worth every penny!
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Beth blushed:
> Just proves you're a gentleman far removed from such lowly

Beth, I'd say that the likelihood of anyone here mistaking you for a gentleman
is fairly low.
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In a message dated 12/17/2000 2:57:44 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> krs@geohex.com writes:

<< Check our website, I have updated it with pictures of most of the UN ships
this week. I forget who painted the models, but I took pictures at the last
ECC and finally got them suitable for use this last week.

 KR, Geo-Hex >>

Been there, seen them.. sent the link to my wife:o)

More than likely though it will have to wait till my payday. I suspect I'm
getting tools and orders to fix the car:o)

Randy
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In a message dated 12/17/2000 10:48:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> peter_mancini@msn.com writes:

<< They look cool by the way. >>

And I suspect will fit right in with the UFP fleet I'm trying to build.
(Ok,
and a Sathar one too... which ships look best as Sathar?:o)

Randy
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> I seem to have lost the URL for the pics of the United Nations

Best piccies are here:

http://starranger.homestead.com/gallery.html

inspiring stuff.

--
Tim
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***
And I suspect will fit right in with the UFP fleet I'm trying to build.
(Ok,
and a Sathar one too... which ships look best as Sathar?:o)
***

Out of curiosity, are you asking if there are figs LIKE the old TSR Sathar,
and would fit well beside them, or what would be good as a whole new
fleet-type?

I see the old lead for sale often, usually not terribly expensively, and the
box set has a wide variety of sizes. The smooth curves with
50's-60's
style is a nice contrast to the almost Victorian/iron-steampunk of the
Feds.

As far as vermiform, I'm trying to remember if they were segmented. That WOULD
be an interesting looking fleet.

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Having just watched the latest episode of nadesco, martian succesor, I was
wondering about anime inspiored designs for full thrust. My take on the
nadesco would be using the suggestion made on the list a while ago about using
the BFG weapons (nova cannon, wave gun) like the phalic, sorry phalon, plasma
cannons. This was along the lines of the published stats in the book
for these weapons were the class 1/1st level weapons, and could be
multiplied for higher class weapons. This I find a good sugestion for
representing the OTT weapons/main guns used on vareous anime starships
(after all, the macross`s main gun could take out a fleet of ships if they
flied in front of it). This is a call to the more experianced rules layers out
there, because I have some ideas to bounce off you.

1-Would ANYbody actually use a nova cannon for long range fire, because
any ship could maneuver out of it`s path by the third turn, any generate a
clean miss (a nsl sd MIGHT get hit, it`s thurst is so pitifully low (I think
(of course, if I`m wrong, somebody tell me))).

2-Would a x5 wave gun require 6 power points, or thirty power points to
fire at max power? My leanings are towards 6 power points, with if the weapon
fails a threshold check/hit by a needle gun, each accumilated power
point causes 1D6 points of dammage for a Cl.1 gun, 2D6 for a Cl.2 gun etc.

3-Anime uses mecha extensivly, especially in space. What would be a good
way to represent or design mecha for use in FT (this I don`t even have any
ideas for yet). For this, I keep thinking about the mecton Z book, which had a
system of scaling equipment/weapons/whatever, that allowed you to design
anything from powered armour to starships, using the same construction rules.

4-Has anybody made up a list, with general notes on weapon
loads/defences/fighter or mecha compliments etc, of vareous anime for
insperation? After all, we`ve already got the phalons from outlanders.

My design for the nadesco would have 2x fighter bays (for the mecha), 4x 6arc
Cl.2 bats (support weapons), a Cl.4 wave gun (to represent the gravaton
cannon, whith seams to be able to destroy almost any ship it hits), and 2x
sheilds, with a reasonable armour and hull, because this ship can take a lot
of punishment.

Nadesco       Gravaton cannon warship  Mass=340       Cost=1154
+mecha/fighters

Mass Cost
Basic Hull                                ---           340
Hull (DP=80) 80 160 FTL 34 68 Normal Drive (T=5) 85 170 Screens x2 34 102
Armour x12 12 24 ADF.Con x1 2 8 PDS x8 8 24 F.Cons x3 3 12 Cl.4 Wavegun 52 156
Cl.2 Bats (6arc)x4 12 36 Fighter Bays x2 18 54
(+mecha/fighters)

This is just a VERY rough draft, and I`m sure I`ve overlooked somethink in
designing it.

BIF "yorkshire born,yorkshire bred, strong in arms, thick in head"