Islam was: 2nd and 3rd rate powers

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> --- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote:

Right.

Then explain all the martyrs who died under Arabic and Turkish rule. Should I
start listing them?

> Forcible conversion of individuals is even

That's not what the Koran says.

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> --- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote:

> > > Forcible conversion of individuals is even

Surah V. v.51: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for
friends.

Surah VII, v.4-5: How many a township have We
destroyed! As a raid by night, while they slept at noon, Our terror came upon
them. No plea had they, when Our terror came unto them.

Surah VIII, v19: And fight them until all persecution is no more and religion
is all for Allah.

Surah IX, v5: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters
wherever ye find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them
the ambush.

Surah IX, v9: How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for
the idolaters?

Surah IX, v14: Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and he will
lay them low.

Surah IX, v41: Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed,
and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah!

Surah IX, v52: Say: Can ye await for us aught save one of two good things
(death or victory in Allah's way)? while we await for you that Allah will
afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands?

Surah IX, v73: O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites!
Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is in hell, a hapless
journey's-end.

Surah IX, v123: O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near
to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those
who keep their duty.

Surah VIII, v65-67: O Prophet!  Exhort the believers
to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred,
and if there be of you a hundred steadfast they shall overcome a thousand of
those who disbelieve, because they are a folk without intelligence. Now hath
Allah lightened your burden, for He knoweth that there is weakness in you. So
if there be of you a steadfast hundred they shall overcome two hundred, and if
there be of you a thousand they shall overcome two thousand by the permission
of Allah. Allah is with the steadfast. It is not for any Prophet to have
captives until he has made slaughter in the land.

Surah IX, v.29: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture
as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath
forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the religion of truth, until they
pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

Surah II, v. 244: Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is the
Hearer, Knower.

Surah III, v. 157&158: And what though ye be slain in Allah's way or die
therein? Surely pardon from Allah and mercy are better than all that they
amass. What though ye be slain or die, when unto Allah ye are gathered?

Surah VI, v. 34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one
of them to excel the other. (Hey, it's a seperate subject. I just LOVE that
quote because I throw it in the face of every woman who tries to preach
tolerance of Islam. Under Islam they'd have no right to contradict me.)

Surah IV, v.84: So fight, O Muhammad, in the way of
Allah--Thou are not taxed with responsibility for
anyone except for thyself--and urge on the believers.
Peradventure Allah will restrain the might of those who disbelieve.

Surah IV v. 89: So choose not friends from them till they forskake their homes
in the way of Allah; if they turn back then take them and kill them wherever
ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from them.

Surah IV v. 95: Those of the believers who sit still, other than those who
have a disabling hurt, are not on an equality with those who strive in the way
of Allah with their wealth and their lives.

Surah IV v. 104: Relent not in pursuit of the enemy.

Surah V v.33: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His
messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be
killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off,
or will be expelled out of the land.

Surah V. v.49: And if they turn away, then know that Allah's will is to smite
them for some sin of theirs.

This is not the place for theological arguments--ever.  Please take it
off list.